Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

[lucgreek]

as a greek at luc not involved in the whole KBG/KKG switch, I can tell you what I've heard:

luc KBG girls were very dissatisified with nationals and had expressed that to them. nationals really didn't act on it or take them seriously so the girls felt left out and wanted to be part of a group that would pay attention to them.

the girls went looking for a new association and i think around 8-9 sororities visited campus and met the girls and the girls ultimately decided to affiliate with KKG. luc greek life accepted this because nearly all of the girls voted to dissassociate themselves and all pledged to KKG. girls that did not want the switch simply did not join KKG and KBG was barred from recruiting new members by luc greek life.

sororities at luc are all huge (i think all are at least 60+ members each), so this is a place where you want to make sure your chapter has good relations with nationals.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

as a greek at luc not involved in the whole KBG/KKG switch, I can tell you what I've heard:

luc KBG girls were very dissatisified with nationals and had expressed that to them. nationals really didn't act on it or take them seriously so the girls felt left out and wanted to be part of a group that would pay attention to them.


sororities at luc are all huge (i think all are at least 60+ members each), so this is a place where you want to make sure your chapter has good relations with nationals.

I feel like I've heard this about KBG several times. Am I just making that up or has anyone else seen this as a common theme? I'm getting old - you never know, my memory could be going

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

as a greek at luc not involved in the whole KBG/KKG switch, I can tell you what I've heard:

luc KBG girls were very dissatisified with nationals and had expressed that to them. nationals really didn't act on it or take them seriously so the girls felt left out and wanted to be part of a group that would pay attention to them.

the girls went looking for a new association and i think around 8-9 sororities visited campus and met the girls and the girls ultimately decided to affiliate with KKG. luc greek life accepted this because nearly all of the girls voted to dissassociate themselves and all pledged to KKG. girls that did not want the switch simply did not join KKG and KBG was barred from recruiting new members by luc greek life.

sororities at luc are all huge (i think all are at least 60+ members each), so this is a place where you want to make sure your chapter has good relations with nationals.

You shouldn't spread gossip if you can't even get the groups names correct. KKG =/= KD

[kddani]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

You shouldn't spread gossip if you can't even get the groups names correct. KKG =/= KD

Read her post closer and read the entire thread. KD is colonizing at F&M, not LUC. The poster is referring to another chapter of KBG that decided to change to an NPC sorority and chose KKG. Read the thread, its mentioned several times.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

as a greek at luc not involved in the whole KBG/KKG switch, I can tell you what I've heard:

luc KBG girls were very dissatisified with nationals and had expressed that to them. nationals really didn't act on it or take them seriously so the girls felt left out and wanted to be part of a group that would pay attention to them.

the girls went looking for a new association and i think around 8-9 sororities visited campus and met the girls and the girls ultimately decided to affiliate with KKG. luc greek life accepted this because nearly all of the girls voted to dissassociate themselves and all pledged to KKG. girls that did not want the switch simply did not join KKG and KBG was barred from recruiting new members by luc greek life.

sororities at luc are all huge (i think all are at least 60+ members each), so this is a place where you want to make sure your chapter has good relations with nationals.

The chapter was not released by KBG national. The girls did not "disassociate" - what they did made the chapter disappear. If they didn't want to be in KBG, they could have terminated themselves from KBG and started an interest group for a new NPC sorority. The problem is that would have taken time, getting recognized, etc, and apparently "don't care how, I want it now!!" You say that there are girls who didn't want the switch - why couldn't they have kept the KBG chapter alive? It sounds like the girls who went to KKG shit talked KBG to LUC's Panhel and LUC in general, because if LUC had such an issue with KBG not being NPC they would have done something about it before this.

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

Originally Posted by ta kala

They, for many years, have been disatisfied with KBG (that is not to put KBG down, I am sure they have chapters who are extrememly proud to be KBG).

Many years??? The KBG chapter has only been there since 2002. It's not like they had been complaining about them since the 60s or something.

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The chapter was not released by KBG national. The girls did not "disassociate" - what they did made the chapter disappear. If they didn't want to be in KBG, they could have terminated themselves from KBG and started an interest group for a new NPC sorority. The problem is that would have taken time, getting recognized, etc, and apparently "don't care how, I want it now!!" You say that there are girls who didn't want the switch - why couldn't they have kept the KBG chapter alive? It sounds like the girls who went to KKG shit talked KBG to LUC's Panhel and LUC in general, because if LUC had such an issue with KBG not being NPC they would have done something about it before this.

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.



Many years??? The KBG chapter has only been there since 2002. It's not like they had been complaining about them since the 60s or something.

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

The whole thing stinks to me.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by 33girl

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

I have never heard that term. (Hmmm...learn something new everyday.)

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I have never heard that term. (Hmmm...learn something new everyday.)

Actually, I probably should correct that - not so much a 1951 joiner thing, more an AES thing. NPC said they would stay out of the schools of education to keep things clear for the AES groups and surprise surprise, they went into them anyway.

The other groups that joined in 1951, well, I don't think they could very well say "doggone it, why did you have to remove your exclusionary policies!"

[chitownxo]

[QUOTE=33girl;1647727]
There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

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I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by chitownxo

I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

OOF.... How old was the LUC KBG chapter?

[chitownxo]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

OOF.... How old was the LUC KBG chapter?

Over 50 years -- my mom pledged back in 1960.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by chitownxo

...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

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[kappadivstar]

Originally Posted by 33girl

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I'd LOVE to see some proof of this. Please, since you're clearly in the middle of the situation and know EVERYTHING, send me the letter I sent asking for money from the alums we couldn't get ahold of.

[kbgkm]

[QUOTE=chitownxo;1647826]

Originally Posted by 33girl

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

QUOTE]

I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

I'm a member of KBG at Frostburg State. We would love to meet some other KBG alum. If your mom and any of her sisters would like to come to Frostburg, we'd love to meet them!

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The chapter was not released by KBG national. The girls did not "disassociate" - what they did made the chapter disappear. If they didn't want to be in KBG, they could have terminated themselves from KBG and started an interest group for a new NPC sorority. The problem is that would have taken time, getting recognized, etc, and apparently "don't care how, I want it now!!" You say that there are girls who didn't want the switch - why couldn't they have kept the KBG chapter alive? It sounds like the girls who went to KKG shit talked KBG to LUC's Panhel and LUC in general, because if LUC had such an issue with KBG not being NPC they would have done something about it before this.

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.



Many years??? The KBG chapter has only been there since 2002. It's not like they had been complaining about them since the 60s or something.

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

the girls who didn't want the switch were in a very small minority. i'm also fairly certain luc greek life really wanted npc affiliation for all of their sororities. luc greek life department also wanted the 4 fraternity/4 sorority number, hence also why KBG was not allowed to continue. before it was decided on the KKG affiliation (if I remember right) it was already decided KBG could not recruit new girls and that whatever new sorority came would be the one that could recruit.

greek life at luc has been on the upswing in recent years so having 4 NPC sororities is what the greek life department liked.

honestly, the KKG girls are nice and no one on campus really has any hard feelings over the situation. do nationals? probably so. but the KKG girls felt that having a bigger sorority to be a part of (that paid attention to them) would ultimately be more beneficial than remaining with KBG.

aside from the minority of KBG girls that wanted KBG to remain, there wasn't really any drama on campus over the situation.