Sorority suspended for "Indian Party."

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

However, only until Native Americans actually feel honored instead of mocked by their representation can anyone legitimately say they should feel honored.

So all Native Americans agree on this, or are we talking about fringe groups which claim to speak for the whole?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So all Native Americans agree on this, or are we talking about fringe groups which claim to speak for the whole?

This distinction is unimportant.

There have always been offensive images targeting blacks that not every black person finds offensive or gives a darn enough to speak out against. As long as there's more than one person who feels a certain way, there's a reason to speak out and they are within their right to say that "we" are offended. "We," to everyone with common sense, means that it is potentially degrading in general even if every PERSON within that group doesn't feel offended or doesn't agree that it should be addressed.

[shinerbock]

You know, when white people stop getting so defensive over other people getting somewhat offended, the people getting offended won't wield nearly as much power.

Also, sub in any other race for white, but I think we're the worst about this stuff. "Really, they dressed up like Indians?! Well, I'm certainly not a racist like them, so kick them all off campus (this will show I'm not one of those racists, right?)."

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You know, when white people stop getting so defensive over other people getting somewhat offended, the people getting offended won't wield nearly as much power.

Example #1356409870 (and counting) of white people thinking they hold the key to all that is powerful and therefore are LOANING nonwhites power.

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Also, sub in any other race for white, but I think we're the worst about this stuff. "Really, they dressed up like Indians?! Well, I'm certainly not a racist like them, so kick them all off campus (this will show I'm not one of those racists, right?)."

Nah, don't sub because you called it accurately but for more reasons than you know. You probably didn't intend for your words to be interpreted a certain way...but...hey.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Example #1356409870 (and counting) of white people thinking they hold the key to all that is powerful and therefore are LOANING nonwhites power.




Nah, don't sub because you called it accurately but for more reasons than you know.

Yes, I'm simply perpetuating the hierarchy. (vomits)

White people loan power to charges of racism because they're fearful of it. Anybody can use it, including whites.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Yes, I'm simply perpetuating the hierarchy. (vomits)

White people loan power to charges of racism because they're fearful of it. Anybody can use it, including whites.

Sure, power comes in all forms and can be used in different ways. We give people power all the time when we allow them to make us upset, paranoid, etc.

However, at a more aggregate and structural level, your post is equivalent to the phrase "race card" and the tendency for whites to be the only ones who can discuss race without being accused of "playing the race card." Ya know, because whites are so rational and objective whereas nonwhites are irrational and emotional about stuff. If whites don't let nonwhites "see them sweat" then those annoying nonwhites will stop being so consumed with race and go find a ball of yarn to play with--or something else to keep their race obsessed nonwhite selves occupied.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Sure, power comes in all forms and can be used in different ways. We give people power all the time when we allow them to make us upset, paranoid, etc.

However, at a more aggregate and structural level, your post is equivalent to the phrase "race card" and the tendency for whites to be the only ones who can discuss race without being accused of "playing the race card." Ya know, because whites are so rational and objective whereas nonwhites are irrational and emotional about stuff. If whites don't let nonwhites "see them sweat" then those annoying nonwhites will stop being so consumed with race and go find a ball of yarn to play with--or something else to keep their race obsessed nonwhite selves occupied.

I can't say I see it clearly. Feel free to make the connections for me.

The focus of my perspective isn't that we should strive to remove the power of minorities with the hope of removing their obsession with race. It is impossible to separate empowerment and the results of removing power in this context, but the desired result here is to end the white community's overreaction. The ultimate goal is not to disempower minorities, though that would be a likely result at some level.

Perhaps you'll say they're inseparable, but I'm not certain they are. I don't want to insulate the white community from the complaints of the irrational nonwhite community. I want the white community to think for themselves, and not merely enhance every complaint about race.