Gays in fraternites (pt. 2)

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

We don't have gays in our fraternity. It's not because we hate gays. They're just different than us. When rushing we seek out young men who have similar interests, goals, and morals as we do; homosexuality doesn't fall in that scope.

That's what a lot of men in elite southern fraternities think. Emphasis on think. You may be surprised what you find out after graduation.

Speaking from experience here.

[jlenoconel]

Well, its kind of ridiculous! You won't find me kissing anyone's feet to get into a fraternity. I object to heterosexuality, its immoral and not in the scope of what I find acceptable in my little cliques! Oh please, someone's sexuality is their business. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they don't have the same interests as you do. Stuck up, egotistical idiots!

[jlenoconel]

People need to wake up. I will NEVER join a fraternity! The word sounds gay in its self anyway, a bunch of dudes doing a whole lot of male bonding... hmmmmm!

[icelandelf]

Originally Posted by jlenoconel

People need to wake up. I will NEVER join a fraternity! The word sounds gay in its self anyway, a bunch of dudes doing a whole lot of male bonding... hmmmmm!

Then James, why, may I ask, are you posting here? We have people on this site that are heterosexual, homosexual, etc. Some are outspoken and some are not. But their common focus is that they are members or potential members of a variety of Greek organizations. If you have no intention of being considered for a fraternity, then why are you here?

[rufio]

one of my brothers is openly gay. its not a big deal. the only real problem is that nobody likes his movie selections on porn n' chicken night.

look, if a fraternity doesn't accept you because of who you are, then why would you want to make them your brothers.

also, why come on a greek message board asking to hear people's opinions, then go around insulting not only the people, but the entire greek system, when you hear answers you don't like.

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by jlenoconel

Well, its kind of ridiculous! You won't find me kissing anyone's feet to get into a fraternity. I object to heterosexuality, its immoral and not in the scope of what I find acceptable in my little cliques! Oh please, someone's sexuality is their business. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they don't have the same interests as you do. Stuck up, egotistical idiots!

Interests that include joining fraternities...? And let's try to keep the name calling to a minimum, thanks.

Originally Posted by jlenoconel

People need to wake up. I will NEVER join a fraternity! The word sounds gay in its self anyway, a bunch of dudes doing a whole lot of male bonding... hmmmmm!

...evidently not. Your comments lack any real argumentative logic and sound instead more like sour grapes. If the word 'fraternity' sounds gay, then why would a gay man describe it with that kind of negative connotation? You'd think you'd want to join in that case. The word 'fraternity' shares the same etymology as 'brother' and 'kinsman' and is suggestive of a family, which is in a sense one of the functions our organizations serve.

Originally Posted by icelandelf

Then James, why, may I ask, are you posting here? We have people on this site that are heterosexual, homosexual, etc. Some are outspoken and some are not. But their common focus is that they are members or potential members of a variety of Greek organizations. If you have no intention of being considered for a fraternity, then why are you here?

Originally Posted by rufio

one of my brothers is openly gay. its not a big deal. the only real problem is that nobody likes his movie selections on porn n' chicken night.

look, if a fraternity doesn't accept you because of who you are, then why would you want to make them your brothers.

also, why come on a greek message bored asking to hear people's opinions, then go around insulting not only the people, but the entire greek system, when you hear answers you don't like.

You may find you get a better response from people by understanding their perspective and making an effort to have a rational discussion. This is a skill that fraternity and sorority members learn early.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by rufio

the only real problem is that nobody likes his movie selections on porn n' chicken night.

LOL!

[starang21]

i wouldn't vote a gay dude into my fraternity.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by jlenoconel

Well, its kind of ridiculous! You won't find me kissing anyone's feet to get into a fraternity. I object to heterosexuality, its immoral and not in the scope of what I find acceptable in my little cliques! Oh please, someone's sexuality is their business. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they don't have the same interests as you do. Stuck up, egotistical idiots!

Do you need a hug?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jlenoconel

Well, its kind of ridiculous! You won't find me kissing anyone's feet to get into a fraternity. I object to heterosexuality, its immoral and not in the scope of what I find acceptable in my little cliques! Oh please, someone's sexuality is their business. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they don't have the same interests as you do. Stuck up, egotistical idiots!

Listen. You came in and started the thread jackass.

Nobody is acting like an egotistical idiot. My response to you was perfectly rational as was Elephant Walks. Don't ask a question like that out in the open and then bitch about people's responses.

[couggirl]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

That's what a lot of men in elite southern fraternities think. Emphasis on think. You may be surprised what you find out after graduation.

Speaking from experience here.

I am not sure why the OP was thinking me because I told me story in response to this post.

I was trying to make the point that you can think some one is something (in this case straigt) and be totally wrong. And if you treat people differntly because they are, in this case gay, you are being a totaly jerk because you might not know who is gay and who isn't and by treating people one way because you know they are, in this case, gay then you are a hypocrite and should not go around saying how you are not going to be friends with some one who is gay, because you might not even know.