Sean Bell's Killers (NYC Cops) Walk

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Before I even post I will state that ANYTHING that Rev Al gets involved with will ALWAYS be turned into a matter of RACE. Just MVHO. Based on his MO of many years.

Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.

Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Based on HIS MO or based on a perceived need? I'm really humored at this line of discussion.

Whether or not people like Al Sharpton doesn't change that there is a need for voices to be heard and he's one way that voices have been heard for years. Al Sharpton champions the civil rights of some underrepresented groups, PERIOD.

Two words: Tawana Brawley.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Two words: Tawana Brawley.

Is that the best you could do?

ETA: Society and victim supporters have been duped for far less (if, in fact, Brawley's claims were untrue versus unsubstantiated). Remember the cases of whites who accused black assailants of murdering their loved ones when in fact the whites were the ones who killed the loved ones--these whites knew what they were doing when they played on the image of black assailants victimizing "helpless white people."

For folks who are unfamiliar: http://www.slate.com/id/2087557

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Is that the best you could do?

No-but it could be a start. As he is always saying that someone should be held accountable for their actions. Yet he never has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley
http://www.courttv.com/archive/legal...makers/tawana/

But why hi-jack a thread so early in the afternoon?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

No-but it could be a start. As he is always saying that someone should be held accountable for their actions.
But why hi-jack a thread so early in the afternoon?

Hijack a thread for something that isn't just a personal jab. Then I'll be more receptive to your rants.

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[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Hijack a thread for something that isn't just a personal jab. Then I'll be more receptive to your rants.

I have nothing personal against you.
I do not know Rev Al personally either. And while there have been times that he was the person who may have been in the right place, at the right time, doing the right thing, there have been times that was not the case.

I just recall rather well what happened when that occurred.
End of my end of hi-jack.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I have nothing personal against you.

How did you get this from my post? Sharpton, buddy, sharpton.

Originally Posted by jon1856

I do not know Rev Al personally either. And while there have been times that he was the person who may have been in the right place, at the right time, doing the right thing, there have been times that was not the case.

You don't need to know him personally to attack him on a personal-professional level. You quoted what he said in the Sean Bell case and struggled to criticize it based on something that happened 21 years ago. Do better.

Every champion of civil rights has and will champion the rights of an INDIVIDUAL who may not have deserved it (if Tawana did lie, as people concluded that she did). The CAUSE fights on and does not require a formal apology from Sharpton to do so.

The deflectors needs to quit deflecting.

[stardusttwin17]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Two words: Tawana Brawley.

You want words? I got words

FIFTY BULLETS

NO GUN

DEAD FATHER

DEAD SON

RELOAD CLIP

STOP POLICE

RELOAD CLIP

Al Sharpton's involvement with Towana Brawley does NOT change the fact that a young man lies DEAD for the crime of attending a bachelor party the night before his wedding. Either come with something relevant or go away. This is too important to dismiss with semantics.

From the get go Mayor Bloomberg called the police's action excessive(& I give him props for that as he took a lot of flack for calling a spade a spade especially since under Guiliani & Koch that would NEVER have happened). This ruling is just another example of protecting the old boys club & not addressing the cancer that permeates the thinking process of our finest in blue.

Michael Vick got jail time for killing a damn dog.

Martha Stewart got jail time for profiting from stock tips.

Wesley Snipes is about to serve time for not paying taxes.

Foxy Brown served time and no one DIED from her actions.

These cops wrongly stopped someone KILLED him and are found not guilty of anything?

There is NO amount of money that will ease the pain that the Bell family or his daughters feel. They would gladly not have $50M to have him back alive.

The words "Stop police" and flash a dang badge and ALL of this could have been avoided.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by stardusttwin17

You want words? I got words

FIFTY BULLETS

NO GUN

DEAD FATHER

DEAD SON

RELOAD CLIP

STOP POLICE

RELOAD CLIP

Al Sharpton's involvement with Towana Brawley does NOT change the fact that a young man lies DEAD for the crime of attending a bachelor party the night before his wedding. Either come with something relevant or go away. This is too important to dismiss with semantics.

From the get go Mayor Bloomberg called the police's action excessive(& I give him props for that as he took a lot of flack for calling a spade a spade especially since under Guiliani & Koch that would NEVER have happened). This ruling is just another example of protecting the old boys club & not addressing the cancer that permeates the thinking process of our finest in blue.

Michael Vick got jail time for killing a damn dog.

Martha Stewart got jail time for profiting from stock tips.

Wesley Snipes is about to serve time for not paying taxes.

Foxy Brown served time and no one DIED from her actions.

These cops wrongly stopped someone KILLED him and are found not guilty of anything?

There is NO amount of money that will ease the pain that the Bell family or his daughters feel. They would gladly not have $50M to have him back alive.

The words "Stop police" and flash a dang badge and ALL of this could have been avoided.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by stardusttwin17

You want words? I got words

FIFTY BULLETS

NO GUN

DEAD FATHER

DEAD SON

RELOAD CLIP

STOP POLICE

RELOAD CLIP

Al Sharpton's involvement with Towana Brawley does NOT change the fact that a young man lies DEAD for the crime of attending a bachelor party the night before his wedding. Either come with something relevant or go away. This is too important to dismiss with semantics.

From the get go Mayor Bloomberg called the police's action excessive(& I give him props for that as he took a lot of flack for calling a spade a spade especially since under Guiliani & Koch that would NEVER have happened). This ruling is just another example of protecting the old boys club & not addressing the cancer that permeates the thinking process of our finest in blue.

Michael Vick got jail time for killing a damn dog.

Martha Stewart got jail time for profiting from stock tips.

Wesley Snipes is about to serve time for not paying taxes.

Foxy Brown served time and no one DIED from her actions.

These cops wrongly stopped someone KILLED him and are found not guilty of anything?

There is NO amount of money that will ease the pain that the Bell family or his daughters feel. They would gladly not have $50M to have him back alive.

The words "Stop police" and flash a dang badge and ALL of this could have been avoided.

Most of this unrelated to the legal matters of THIS case.
And those that are, well perhaps if one did not yell in order to make their case, one could agree with some of them.

And if you are talking about someone taking responsibilities for their actions/non-actions, then then those two words of mine do mean something.

And as you pointed out yourself, this is TOO important to dismiss with semantics.

Yet most of your yelling was about it.
From what I was told and taught, our legal system is based on one is Innocent until proved guilty.

In this criminal case, that seemed not to have happened.

And the phase "no justice" is getting a bit old. That POV seems to say if my way is not followed, anything else is wrong.

So, lets see what happens next. We have a civil case, we may have a Federal case. Being NYC, there could be a riot or two. And is a riot going to bring justice to anyone???

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Most of this unrelated to the legal matters of THIS case.
And those that are, well perhaps if one did not yell in order to make their case, one could agree with some of them.

And if you are talking about someone taking responsibilities for their actions/non-actions, then then those two words of mine do mean something.

And as you pointed out yourself, this is TOO important to dismiss with semantics.

Yet most of your yelling was about it.
From what I was told and taught, our legal system is based on one is Innocent until proved guilty.

In this criminal case, that seemed not to have happened.

And the phase "no justice" is getting a bit old. That POV seems to say if my way is not followed, anything else is wrong.

So, lets see what happens next. We have a civil case, we may have a Federal case. Being NYC, there could be a riot or two. And is a riot going to bring justice to anyone???

Jon please..you give NYC too little credit.

Do you realize that these had been 5 shootings like this where unarmed men at night just seem to die in ahail of bullets since 1999? No riots have broken out.

However something needs to be done and soon before people really start shooting back at the cops.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

However something needs to be done and soon before people really start shooting back at the cops.

This already happens, of course. From what I can tell the situation here was absurd, but police are in precarious positions and cries of police brutality are sometimes ignored for good reason.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by stardusttwin17

Michael Vick got jail time for killing a damn dog.

Actually Michael Vick got thrown in prison for, over a 6-7 year span, helping to fund and operate an illegal gambling/dog fighting ring that crossed interstate lines.......a federal offense.

...and I'll tell anyone to go to hell if they think what happened to those dogs was not that big of a deal because they were just "damn dogs". Mutilating and butchering domesticated animals is about as sick as it gets. All of those pieces of shit should be shot on the spot.


Sorry. End rant.