Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Note: The Desert News is owned and operated by the Main Church.
http://www.deseretnews.com/home/1,5125,,00.html

It's The Deseret News.

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

There's something about their faces that's odd. It's like they age 10x faster than us.

Well, you probably have to factor in that they work hard from an early age, are probably in the sun a fair amount, and don't wear make-up.

But yeah, it's kind of like watching interviews with Stepford Wives on the Prairie.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

It's The Deseret News.
Well, you probably have to factor in that they work hard from an early age, are probably in the sun a fair amount, and don't wear make-up.

But yeah, it's kind of like watching interviews with Stepford Wives on the Prairie.

Well, I guess I should be happy that someone is at least reading the links if not the stories that they cover

[Pebcake]

PM Mama00, I am not LDS or any organized religion. One husband for 25 years, lol. It is just frightening when the local 'authorities' feel entitled to take children from parents on the word of one child (who has yet to be identified). The women in the news do look different and speak differently. So what? I still wonder if the children who have been taken are in a better position? With so many homeless children on the street (possibly being sexually and physically abused), why would the Texas authorities think it more important to take children from homes where they are at least fed? Maybe it is people trying to feel good about themselves by 'saving' these children, maybe it is political, or maybe just misguided. If investigations are in order, do it, but to disrupt the lives of that many people when the rescuers have no long range plan?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

With so many homeless children on the street (possibly being sexually and physically abused), why would the Texas authorities think it more important to take children from homes where they are at least fed?

"My husband is the best, at least he doesn't beat me!!"

I highly doubt this was all done because only ONE child said anything.

[Pebcake]

According to the NBC news, the raid was organized because of a call from a girl claiming abuse. To date, this girl has not been identified. I am not an advocate for this group. I am an advocate for our rights. If an unidentified person claimed you had abused your child, your child would be taken from you and kept from you until authorities decided rather you should have your child.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

PM Mama00, I am not LDS or any organized religion. One husband for 25 years, lol. It is just frightening when the local 'authorities' feel entitled to take children from parents on the word of one child (who has yet to be identified). The women in the news do look different and speak differently. So what? I still wonder if the children who have been taken are in a better position? With so many homeless children on the street (possibly being sexually and physically abused), why would the Texas authorities think it more important to take children from homes where they are at least fed? Maybe it is people trying to feel good about themselves by 'saving' these children, maybe it is political, or maybe just misguided. If investigations are in order, do it, but to disrupt the lives of that many people when the rescuers have no long range plan?

Pebcake;
Please take the time to read all the links/stories in this thread. You may just learn something.

[Pebcake]

Thank you, Jon. I have read quite a bit and seen a lot on TV. Could you direct me to further reading on this incident?

Sincerely

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

Thank you, Jon. I have read quite a bit and seen a lot on TV. Could you direct me to further reading on this incident?

Sincerely

You got to be either joking or a Troll.
Check the links in this thread for a start.
And as we all can see that you are using the INTERNET, try to use any
news search.
And read the books that have been talked about in this thread.

[Pebcake]

Jon, you are coming off a bit mean spiritied. I read all the links you and others posted. I saw nothing that would make me feel better about too much government involvement. What, in my post, offended you so?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

According to the NBC news, the raid was organized because of a call from a girl claiming abuse.

According to many news reports I have seen and read, the raid was organized because of years of suspicion about what was going on at the ranch/compound/whatever you want to call it. The call from the girl was simply the trigger that allowed the raid to occur legally.

[Pebcake]

'Years of suspicion' - What a frightening phrase. For years, many in our area have suspected that abuse to children and elders occurs daily in the inner city. Most everyone is aware of it. No one gets together a swat team and pulls out the children. Is it that when one group is targeted, (esp. a group we have suspicions about) we all have to 'save the children'? We don't know what we will do with the children, but we will make a splash. Probably some of the children in the compound have been abused, but probably less than are abused everyday in the inner cities. Abuse, anytime and to anyone, is wrong. But the trauma to the people involved in this 'rescue' is probably worse than any they suffered before. I do not wish to anger anyone, I just think it is easy to quote aritcles and unintentionally harm more than help. Maybe these charges could have been handled differently. Maybe the children not being abused could have avoided the trauma of this upheaval.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

...and some of the speech patterns and body language are nearly scary. Very robotic. Rehearsed? Staged?

I forgot one word: brainwashed.

There's something not natural.

As for the timing and the way this was carried out, I strongly suspect that somewhere in the future, we will find out that there is a lot more beneath the surface of this story than we know right now.

What that might be, I wouldn't care to speculate -- and under the circumstances, neither should the media or the rest of us.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

'Years of suspicion' - What a frightening phrase. For years, many in our area have suspected that abuse to children and elders occurs daily in the inner city. Most everyone is aware of it. No one gets together a swat team and pulls out the children. Is it that when one group is targeted, (esp. a group we have suspicions about) we all have to 'save the children'? We don't know what we will do with the children, but we will make a splash. Probably some of the children in the compound have been abused, but probably less than are abused everyday in the inner cities. Abuse, anytime and to anyone, is wrong. But the trauma to the people involved in this 'rescue' is probably worse than any they suffered before. I do not wish to anger anyone, I just think it is easy to quote aritcles and unintentionally harm more than help. Maybe these charges could have been handled differently. Maybe the children not being abused could have avoided the trauma of this upheaval.

What the heck is your problem with the inner cities??? This is coming off as anti-urbanism to me.

[PM_Mama00]

Brainwashed is exactly what I was thinking.

[Pebcake]

LOL, 33, that is funny, as I live on a large farm.