The Hazing Tradition

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

So, you don't think it is fair to let the rushees/pledges know: "Hey, you thought you were going to join the national fraternity, Alpha Beta, but later this semester we are going to disaffiliate and become a local."

As much as the rushee might like the guys in the chapter, what if they don't want to join a local?

ETA: This is a sincere question, not trying to be snarky.

Aside from that, what University is going to stand by and allow an organization to split away from its HQ so that it may haze and ignore sound risk management policy?

-- Don't think so. You won't be a part of IFC and the University will refuse to affiliate with you. Good luck finding new members who want to be a part of that tradition -- especially when the national you split away from recolonizes on that campus.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Aside from that, what University is going to stand by and allow an organization to split away from its HQ so that it may haze and ignore sound risk management policy?

The University of the South.

Penn State University.

And they didn't break away so they could haze, they broke away because they disagreed w/ their nationals' alcohol free policies. Remember that whole deal about how all fraternities were going to be dry by 2000? Not so much.

EW is saying that he feels that 1) his HQ isn't letting his chapter pick members in the way that they want 2) the program they have in place to educate those members is unsound and weakens the chapter. That's not about alcohol or hazing. I would feel the same way if (example) ASA passed a policy that said we were going to concentrate on grades and had to take any rushee that had a 3.75 or above.

[SWTXBelle]

Hmmm ... just wondering - who owns the house? I'm very familiar with what happens to breakaway church buildings in the ECUSA - and I'd be very surprised if there weren't clauses in most House Corporation documents dealing with what happens to the house if the national group disbands/leaves campus.