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Old 02-20-2008, 08:01 PM
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This is amazing I believe it would be no contest between him and John Mccain so the thought that we are seriousy on the brink of an African American president it so awesome!
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:54 PM
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Something to think about...

It's awesome and it's scary. It's still THEIR world. We haven't overcome fully...YET! Even if/when Obama wins, he'll still become someone's puppet. This election isn't any different than any other election local, state or national. Those who pull in the money will be the one the candidate will align himself or herself with. Is Ms. O his biggest backer? In one week, Obama raised $7million dollars or so. Who were the donors? He may win the election, but who really wins the power?
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:57 PM
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Compare Obama and Clinton Records

I came across this one today that provides more detail and the results of one person's research... http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20.../807/36/458633. I would love to find the time to do this kind of digging....
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:42 PM
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It's awesome and it's scary. It's still THEIR world. We haven't overcome fully...YET! Even if/when Obama wins, he'll still become someone's puppet. This election isn't any different than any other election local, state or national. Those who pull in the money will be the one the candidate will align himself or herself with. Is Ms. O his biggest backer? In one week, Obama raised $7million dollars or so. Who were the donors? He may win the election, but who really wins the power?
So true soror!!!
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:25 PM
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its exciting but i dont agree..

i think that because mccain has a lot of widespread appeal reaching alot of moderate folks, obama may have a tough time. the fact that we are still in a war still may be a large enough factor to pull folks toward mccain.

both candidates can unify this country. it will be pretty close.


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Old 02-22-2008, 10:34 AM
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i think that because mccain has a lot of widespread appeal reaching alot of moderate folks, obama may have a tough time. the fact that we are still in a war still may be a large enough factor to pull folks toward mccain.

both candidates can unify this country. it will be pretty close.
time will indeed tell, but look at the factors already in play:

In their respective primary races, D primary voters are outvoting their R counterparts by large margins. I think I read in the Wisconsin primary, Obama received more total votes than McCain and Huckabee combined did in the R primary. ...separating out what it means for the individual popularity of a candidate, particularly if the D primary ends within a few weeks or so, these trends seem to indicate that Democrats are more enthusiastic, and perhaps more likely to show up at the polls in Nov.

Both Obama and McCain will battle for independents. We can all guess about who'll win that. However at this relatively late date, McCain still has a lot of disaffection with the conservative base of his party. They will likely come back to him by November, but who can say in what numbers? particulary if he's in a pitched battle with Obama for independents. McCain is in the weakest position I've seen a Rep. candidate enter the fall election in quite a while.

What decides elections is, of course, a home-by-home decision, but it appears the economy and Iraq will be the dominant issues. Neither of which bode well for Repubs at present.
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