Romney Bows Out

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Yeah, that episode is funny, and I see that perspective to a point. But then, when we have a presidential candidate holding himself out as a good Mormon and discussing the importance to him of his faith, if that perspective is at play we get into the honesty factor.

I don't disagree - it's just a matter of the extent to which you want to extend the Church's dictum and dogma to each individual member, which is kind of natural. Personally, I find the Mormon Church's horrifically awkward treatment of blacks, gays and polygamy (which were all virtually ignored for decades after other institutions faced them head-on) no different than some American Catholic dioceses' bizarre attempts to bury or ignore improprieties by priests or officials, in that I don't really want to extend the organization's lunacy to the individual until they show that they're "playing ball" (so to speak, oops) for the org.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Personally, I find the Mormon Church's horrifically awkward treatment of blacks, gays and polygamy (which were all virtually ignored for decades after other institutions faced them head-on) no different than some American Catholic dioceses' bizarre attempts to bury or ignore improprieties by priests or officials, in that I don't really want to extend the organization's lunacy to the individual until they show that they're "playing ball" (so to speak, oops) for the org.

I see one difference. At least with the Catholic Church (of which I am not a member, just for full disclosure), no one tries to credibly argue that the blind eye turned to the terrible things priests did was anything but repugnant or was required by divine revelation. With the Mormons, on the other hand, polygamy and decades of terrible treatment of blacks, which were predicated on revelations binding on the faithful, were simply wiped away by new revelations. No repentence, nothing other than "new rules."

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I see one difference. At least with the Catholic Church (of which I am not a member, just for full disclosure), no one tries to credibly argue that the blind eye turned to the terrible things priests did was anything but repugnant or was required by divine revelation. With the Mormons, on the other hand, polygamy and decades of terrible treatment of blacks, which were predicated on revelations binding on the faithful, were simply wiped away by new revelations. No repentence, nothing other than "new rules."

This is largely semantic at this point, but I see where you're coming from - I'm not sure I agree 100%, but I certainly don't disagree.

[Pope]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

...the Catholic Church (of which I am not a member, just for full disclosure)...

*sniff*

This makes me sad.