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Old 01-31-2008, 04:14 PM
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1. The push started to soon.

2. The fact of money.

Some were not worth a darn.

Some still are not.

Must love TV and the internet!
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:26 PM
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Back to the original topic -- I am so frustrated that everyone is dropping out BEFORE the super Tues!! Wasn't the whole point of states moving up their primary dates to Feb, so more states could have more input in the process!?!

I feel like all the candidates just gave up before the contest ever started. I was excited to vote in the primaries, but not now. I am beginning to believe everything is so rigged.
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1. The push started to soon.

2. The fact of money.

Some were not worth a darn.

Some still are not.

Must love TV and the Internet!
Both of you, in your own way, are correct.
As posted above somewhere, the best way of doing this would be rotating 5 Super Tuesdays separated by two weeks or so.

But that is just too simple and too political to ever happen.

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Old 01-31-2008, 08:20 PM
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I'm still heartbroken about Fred, and as if to taunt me, I got a package from Friends of Fred today. What am I going to do now with a big sort of painted looking image poster with Thompson 2008 and, no joke, a rhinestone pin that spells out Thompson 2008? If he were still in the race, both would amuse and delight me to no end, but as it is, just kind of reminds me of what won't happen.

It also reminded me of the incredible expense that you've got even when you drop out because you've had to plan and pre-order everything. I suppose maybe that's encouraging people to drop out sooner rather than later. You can't even just maintain your spending, you kind of have to accelerated it for something like Super Tuesday.

Maybe all the drop-outs looked at the cost of ads in all the markets for Super Tuesday and just buckled.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:44 PM
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I'm still heartbroken about Fred, and as if to taunt me, I got a package from Friends of Fred today. What am I going to do now with a big sort of painted looking image poster with Thompson 2008 and, no joke, a rhinestone pin that spells out Thompson 2008? If he were still in the race, both would amuse and delight me to no end, but as it is, just kind of reminds me of what won't happen.

It also reminded me of the incredible expense that you've got even when you drop out because you've had to plan and pre-order everything. I suppose maybe that's encouraging people to drop out sooner rather than later. You can't even just maintain your spending, you kind of have to accelerated it for something like Super Tuesday.

Maybe all the drop-outs looked at the cost of ads in all the markets for Super Tuesday and just buckled.
CBS Radio just reported that Mitt has a media buy for this up coming week in the 7 figures.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:47 PM
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CBS Radio just reported that Mitt has a media buy for this up coming week in the 7 figures.
Holy crap (pun intended). Just think what that kind of money could do in New Orleans/the Gulf Coast or in other similarly needed demographics... it's obnoxious (and I know it's not only him -- the whole process is a gaudy, wasteful, disgraceful mess).
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:52 PM
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Holy crap (pun intended). Just think what that kind of money could do in New Orleans/the Gulf Coast or in other similarly needed demographics... it's obnoxious (and I know it's not only him -- the whole process is a gaudy, wasteful, disgraceful mess).
Well, while they did not give figures, story also said that Barack is running media in 20 of the 22 states while Hilary currently has media buys in less than 15.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:48 PM
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I think things like the primaries/caucuses and the electoral college made sense before we had the type of communication and instant results that we have today. Why not just have all the primaries and caucuses on the same day throughout the whole country a few weeks before the conventions? Why are we dragging it out this long? It will be pretty much be decided on Super Tuesday and then we have 9 long months of campaigning one on one. What a nightmare!
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:53 PM
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I think things like the primaries/caucuses and the electoral college made sense before we had the type of communication and instant results that we have today. Why not just have all the primaries and caucuses on the same day throughout the whole country a few weeks before the conventions? Why are we dragging it out this long? It will be pretty much be decided on Super Tuesday and then we have 9 long months of campaigning one on one. What a nightmare!
Agree. Or as posted before 10 mini-super Tuesdays.
And just think of the nine months of dirt...........
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:59 PM
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I think the only ads that I've seen are Obama ads.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:33 PM
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Agree. Or as posted before 10 mini-super Tuesdays.
And just think of the nine months of dirt...........
I figure, if we already have people dropping out after only a handful of states have had primaries that even 10 mini-super Tuesdays wouldn't work. After two weeks of it, then 10 states would have had their primaries and people would still drop out at that point if they weren't doing well.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:34 PM
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Then small states wouldn't get any attention or their needs/wants addressed at all.

Just like whole Super Tuesday thing is an example of people getting too clever for themselves "We'll all be relevant at ONCE!" Actually if anything the states after Super Tuesday may decide it. I don't think the Democratic nomination will be over on Tuesday. Unless it's a landslide it'll be too close to call.
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