Britney loses custody of her kids!

[texas*princess]

i think it's all so sad... her THIRD lawyer quit. she lost all visitation.

i know lots of people said this awhile back, but really, after this, there is no bouncing back. i doubt anyone will ever see her perform live or have new cd's ever again.

[smiley21]

I would not wish anything bad on her. Still, she has lost her kids and has completely fallen apart. I hope she is able to mentally bounce back for her own sake. At this rate, it seems like the next major news story will be something really bad (i.e. fatal).

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by smiley21

I would not wish anything bad on her. Still, she has lost her kids and has completely fallen apart. I hope she is able to mentally bounce back for her own sake. At this rate, it seems like the next major news story will be something really bad (i.e. fatal).

yea i was thinking the same thing....

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

i know lots of people said this awhile back, but really, after this, there is no bouncing back. i doubt anyone will ever see her perform live or have new cd's ever again.

I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.

That makes a lot of sense, but I think in order for her to do that she needs to want to get the help that is required for her to get better. We've seen her go from bad to worse to really really bad in just one year. With everything that has happened, I don't know if losing her kids will be what it takes for the proverbial light to go on in her head that says "Hey, I really need some help".

I hope that she is able to mentally bounce back, because if she doesn't, she's going to have some real issues later in life. I'm just not sure that she will be able to bounce back professionally because of all the crazy stuff she's pulled in the last couple of years that has deteriorated her marketable persona.

I am not a Britney fan, but I'd hope that she is able to bounce back both mentally and professionally. Everyone was "rooting" for her when it was announced she was going to do the VMAs ... and she just didn't deliver. I'm not sure that she will be able to get back to where she used to be as a performer.

[smiley21]

Right now I think the fans are apart of the problem- directly and indirectly. Britney really doesn't know anything else but the spotlight, so she craves it. She needs to understand how to separate herself from it. I know that is now difficult living in L.A. So she needs to move elsewhere and put her life back together. To Britney, L.A. = hell. She needs to get out. I honestly believe that if she does not do something drastic to better herself, she will not make it to the end of 2008.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by smiley21

Right now I think the fans are a part of the problem- directly and indirectly. Britney really doesn't know anything else but the spotlight, so she craves it. She needs to understand how to separate herself from it. I know that is now difficult living in L.A. So she needs to move elsewhere and put her life back together. To Britney, L.A. = hell. She needs to get out. I honestly believe that if she does not do something drastic to better herself, she will not make it to the end of 2008.

I can see the rationale behind this. Her mental health issues are only making the poor parenting, poor driving, poor decision making and poor life choices more difficult. I hope no one here can even begin to imagine what it must be like to be in her head - it must be hell. The best thing that could happen to her is some serious time away from Hollyweird, a commitment to supervised medication, and then, slowly but surely introducing her (reinvented) self back to her kids. Strangely, I feel sorry for what she's become.

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.

But in order to remain okay, people with bipolar have to take meds. Knowing Britney, she's not take the meds when she's supposed to, which means she'll probably stay the way she is. And that means she won't ever see her kiddies.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I completely disagree. I am NO Britney fan, but I do think it's still possible for her to bounce back from this. The news is now reporting that she has bipolar disorder, which is a very real mental health issue, but one she can overcome. It is possible to lead a productive and functional life with bipolar disorder, but she has to receive the help she needs from a proper professional. To tell you the truth, I suspected bipolar disorder from the beginning, since (and I know this is weird) my mother was bipolar, and shaved her head once (yes, crazy, I know). I know that's not any real basis for a mental health diagnosis, but her behavior is very similar to what I remember my mother being like. My mother also, unfortunately, lost custody of all of her children, too, so I know this must be very difficult for Britney, if she is really bipolar. Just my two cents.

Bi Polar and Substance Abuse. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

I agree with you that many of her most recent actions were manic: Shaving off the hair, beating the SUV with an umbrella, ranting like she had ADAD. The super-human grandiosity: firing an assistant for not picking up her hat, acting condecending in court, missing court dates. The depression has been evident all along (i.e. the trailor trash video).

But, when did the substance abuse begin and did it ignite someone who was already predisposed to mental illness?

All I know is that she needs help, the kids need to be in a healthy environment and someone needs to tell her 'no' for a change.

ETA: I've never been a fan of hers either.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

But, when did the substance abuse begin and did it ignite someone who was already predisposed to mental illness?

I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?

Not sure about Annette but I know that Judy Garland was given drugs by MGM. She was given an upper during the day so that she wouldn't be tired and the studios could get as much work out of her as possible. At night, they gave her a narcotic so that she could sleep. I believe they gave her the drugs before she turned 18.

Not sure if this is the same case with Britney. As much as I think Disney is a sleazy corporation, I can't imagine them giving drugs to their employees at a young age.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'll bet Mama Spears knows. Britney wouldn't be the first starlet whose mother introduced her to the wonderful world of pharmacopia.

ETA: Weren't both Judy Garland and Annette Funicello also introduced to drugs early in their careers?

I've NEVER heard anything connecting Annette Funicello to any drug use! Even a Google search didn't bring up anything. I would be shocked...and it's hard for any celebrity news to shock me.

As trashy as the Spears family seems to be, it would surprise me if Lynn had anything to do with introducing her daughters to drugs. When you're in your teens and 20s, it's nearly impossible in some circles NOT to be around drugs and alcohol with your peer group.

[Benzgirl]

Unbelievable
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/...0-a15a9c04f981

Regardless of whatever disease she's suffering from -- no drug, no intervention, no life coach and comfort from her "loved" ones will work unless Britney decides for herself that she's willing to ask for help.

Without willingness, she'll just continue on this path of destruction and I'm sorry, I just can't be sympathetic to that.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I've NEVER heard anything connecting Annette Funicello to any drug use! Even a Google search didn't bring up anything. I would be shocked...and it's hard for any celebrity news to shock me.

My bad. It was another celebrity, who is a good friend of Annette Funicello's, and even her early drug abuse is 50/50 - she won't state a definite yes or no, even after suffering a somewhat defining drug abuse illness.

As trashy as the Spears family seems to be, it would surprise me if Lynn had anything to do with introducing her daughters to drugs. When you're in your teens and 20s, it's nearly impossible in some circles NOT to be around drugs and alcohol with your peer group.

When I was in middle- and high school, I knew a lot of theatre people. Quite a few of their parents introduced them to speed, so they could handle stage shows AND still be at school. Looking back, I'm amazed at how young some of these girls were - maybe nine or ten years old.

But you're right - in many circles, it's almost impossible to avoid contact with drugs or alcohol, even at an early age. Plus, you have a generation of parents who can't say that they never inhaled (honestly, at least).