vaccinate your kids, or else!!

DaemonSeid · #1 11-20-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with that. Many undocumented immigrants actually do get their children's immunizations because they want the benefit of education, so I have seen many do what it takes.

But, just like US citizens do not get immunizations, so as undocumented immigrants. Interestingly, I would like to see the same rates in Europe. The Europeans have been exposed to many of these diseases for a millennium, so there are real immunity design issues that have been on-going.

Folks who refuse to get their children free shots have very little excuse now. Some of that may be laziness to care for their kids. Period.

we will have to agree to disagree...2 teachers I talked to don't lie... heheheh *wink*.

AlphaFrog · #2 11-20-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

we will have to agree to disagree...2 teachers I talked to don't lie... heheheh *wink*.

Yes, 2 is a highly representative number of the entire lot of teachers in this country. I'm sure it was a very diverse cross section as well.

DaemonSeid · #3 11-20-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Yes, 2 is a highly representative number of the entire lot of teachers in this country. I'm sure it was a very diverse cross section as well.

AF sometimes...you really should keep your thoughts to yourself...again...trying to look cute in front of your friends...is not cute.

I wasn't disputing AKA_Monet's opinion at all.

I heard one thing...she heard something else.

We both have 2 different sources and I am sure hers has verifiable information as well as mine (matter of fact, Monet one of my sources is a soror <and sis in law> of yours)

Get it? Agree to disagree (also known as saying that we both can be right)

Keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself please.

AlphaFrog · #4 11-20-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

AF sometimes...you really should keep your thoughts to yourself...again...trying to look cute in front of your friends...is not cute.

I wasn't disputing AKA_Monet's opinion at all.

I heard one thing...she heard something else.

We both have 2 different sources and I am sure hers has verifiable information as well as mine (matter of fact, Monet one of my sources is a soror <and sis in law> of yours)

Get it? Agree to disagree (also known as saying that we both can be right)

Keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself please.

You can't agree to disagree on facts. Either illegal immigrants for the most part get their children immunized, or they don't. It's not a debate. It may be hard to prove, since there may not be much documentation, but it's not an opinion.

As for your "source" - anecdotes don't qualify as "verifiable information".

And if you think I feel the need to "impress" people or look cute, you obviously haven't read too many of my posts. I say what I feel like. Let me repeat that so you get it: I SAY WHAT I FEEL LIKE. Got it?

DaemonSeid · #5 11-20-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

And if you think I feel the need to "impress" people or look cute, you obviously haven't read too many of my posts. I say what I feel like. Let me repeat that so you get it: I SAY WHAT I FEEL LIKE. Got it?

I can't hear you...remove your foot please

AlphaFrog · #6 11-20-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I can't hear you...remove your foot please

DaemonSeid · #7 11-20-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

and if you are posting that pic ...(in leiu of said 'argument') ...what does that make you?

AKA_Monet · #8 11-20-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

AF sometimes...you really should keep your thoughts to yourself...again...trying to look cute in front of your friends...is not cute.

I wasn't disputing AKA_Monet's opinion at all.

I heard one thing...she heard something else.

We both have 2 different sources and I am sure hers has verifiable information as well as mine (matter of fact, Monet one of my sources is a soror <and sis in law> of yours)

Get it? Agree to disagree (also known as saying that we both can be right)

Keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself please.

Verifiable information?

MysticCat · #9 11-20-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Get it? Agree to disagree (also known as saying that we both can be right)

Since when does "agree to disagree" mean the same thing as saying "we're both right"? It can just as likely (or more likely) mean "I'm right, you're wrong, you're not going to change my mind, and you're hopeless, so let's just move on."

DaemonSeid · #10 11-20-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Since when does "agree to disagree" mean the same thing as saying "we're both right"? It can just as likely (or more likely) mean "I'm right, you're wrong, you're not going to change my mind, and you're hopeless, so let's just move on."

Mystic...

what it means to me...IMO

in some cases there can be two sides to each story.

Your experiences and mine are not similar. But we may have beliefs and facts that form different opinions on a simliar subject.

Sometimes there is no one right or truly correct way especially since there may be different ways that give a positive (or negative...depending on what you are seeking) result on tackling a problem.

I may not like your opinion, you may not like mine.

I respect that you have one and if whatever works for you gets the job done so be it.

And it may even be prudent for me to at least examine whatever it is that you are doing because I may have to change and adapt to that way of thinking or doing.

For instance.... religion

MysticCat · #11 11-20-2007, 03:58 PM

^^^ That kind of stuff works with differences of opinion. It doesn't work with facts, statistical or otherwise, which is what got this whole "discussion" started.

You can be as earnest as you like in believing, say, that the world is flat. I'll respect your right to believe that and agree to disagree on the subject of whether the world is flat or round. But only one of us will be right.

DaemonSeid · #12 11-20-2007, 04:02 PM

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^^^ That kind of stuff works with differences of opinion. It doesn't work with facts, statistical or otherwise, which is what got this whole "discussion" started.

You can be as earnest as you like in believing, say, that the world is flat. I'll respect your right to believe that and agree to disagree on the subject of whether the world is flat or round. But only one of us will be right.

But that was my whole point in my comment to Monet.

I wasn't basing what I said on a 'fact'

In fact...the comment that made that lead to this wasn't made to be taken seriously at all....maybe I didn't leave enough emoticons behind for certain folk to catch that I was jesting!

AKA_Monet · #13 11-20-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Yes, 2 is a highly representative number of the entire lot of teachers in this country. I'm sure it was a very diverse cross section as well.

Not to mention what really goes on in undocumented immigrants homes... I guess you would have that statistical significance and relevancy for a full double-blinded trial...

DaemonSeid · #14 11-20-2007, 03:13 PM

OK...

I wasn't saying it for you all to take that '2' to be a literal number as a statistical fact!

AKA_Monet · #15 11-20-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

OK...

I wasn't saying it for you all to take that '2' to be a literal number as a statistical fact!

But that's how stereotypes, distortions and rumors get started and proliferate out of proportion.

We are about dispelling myths on GC. Everyone can agree to disagree with facts. Quips and puns in this discussion is not a joke to a lot of folks around here...