And yet another reason why 'NICE' areas aren't always safe

[coco_swing]

Originally Posted by Rudey

Decent is a great word to use isn't it? It doesn't convey that it's affluent or run down. It's just decent. Hah. Either way, it's not exactly where most people dream of living. Plus it's within walking distance to one of the worst neighborhoods in NY, Jamaica. I'll stick to my neighborhood

-Rudey

Yeah, I was wondering if the poster is familiar with that area. I have love for Jamaica (went to JHS, and they have great shopping deals on the Ave), but I wouldn't describe the area surrounding SJU as "nice". Though, I probably would use "decent" or "it could be worse".

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by coco_swing

Yeah, I was wondering if the poster is familiar with that area. I have love for Jamaica (went to JHS, and they have great shopping deals on the Ave), but I wouldn't describe the area surrounding SJU as "nice". Though, I probably would use "decent" or "it could be worse".

I mean technically, it's not the worst area. The bronx has by far the worst areas in ny. That part of union turnpike is pretty safe since it's well lit and all. But it's right up against Jamaica which blows. The shopping deals are pretty funny, but you sit there for an hour going back and forth with a korean guy to drop the price 20 bucks on a pair of kicks as long as you pay in cash. I'm not sure if the colliseum is still around but that was one dank place.

Forrest hills was just a haven for goofy russian immigrants. Lots of hair gel and shiny shirts.

-Rudey

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I mean technically, it's not the worst area. The bronx has by far the worst areas in ny. That part of union turnpike is pretty safe since it's well lit and all. But it's right up against Jamaica which blows. The shopping deals are pretty funny, but you sit there for an hour going back and forth with a korean guy to drop the price 20 bucks on a pair of kicks as long as you pay in cash. I'm not sure if the colliseum is still around but that was one dank place.

Forrest hills was just a haven for goofy russian immigrants. Lots of hair gel and shiny shirts.

-Rudey

Wow. Anyway, I don't even think Jamaica is so bad. But then again, I probably have a higher tolerance for low-income neighborhoods. My grandmother lived in Queens (minutes from Jamaica Ave) for the last 20 years of her life, and pronounced it safe and comfortable. Of course, she grew up on Jamaica the island, and there are parts of Kingston that make some of the worst areas in New York look quite nice by comparison .

To keep the discussion going, define the following, if you please:

A "bad" neighborhood is...
A "decent" neighborhood is...
A "good" neigborhood is...
An "excellent" neighborhood is...

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

Wow. Anyway, I don't even think Jamaica is so bad. But then again, I probably have a higher tolerance for low-income neighborhoods. My grandmother lived in Queens (minutes from Jamaica Ave) for the last 20 years of her life, and pronounced it safe and comfortable. Of course, she grew up on Jamaica the island, and there are parts of Kingston that make some of the worst areas in New York look quite nice by comparison .

To keep the discussion going, define the following, if you please:

A "bad" neighborhood is...
A "decent" neighborhood is...
A "good" neigborhood is...
An "excellent" neighborhood is...

A "bad" neighborhood is...high crime, low income, boarded up homes, high police visibilty

A "decent" neighborhood is...somewhat upkept but has it's rough edges, mix of owners and renters, relatively safe

A "good" neigborhood is...more owners than renters, low crime, low trash, a place to raise kids


An "excellent" neighborhood is... is there such a thing?

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

Wow. Anyway, I don't even think Jamaica is so bad. But then again, I probably have a higher tolerance for low-income neighborhoods. My grandmother lived in Queens (minutes from Jamaica Ave) for the last 20 years of her life, and pronounced it safe and comfortable. Of course, she grew up on Jamaica the island, and there are parts of Kingston that make some of the worst areas in New York look quite nice by comparison .

To keep the discussion going, define the following, if you please:

A "bad" neighborhood is...
A "decent" neighborhood is...
A "good" neigborhood is...
An "excellent" neighborhood is...

Everyone has a different standard. But I just want to point out that you said you didn't think Jamaica is "so bad". From the tone, you recognize it's not the best. It's not as scary as the Bronx or the island of Jamaica, but it's also not as safe as many other neighborhoods.

-Rudey

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Rudey

Everyone has a different standard. But I just want to point out that you said you didn't think Jamaica is "so bad". From the tone, you recognize it's not the best. It's not as scary as the Bronx or the island of Jamaica, but it's also not as safe as many other neighborhoods.

-Rudey

I know everyone has a different standard... which is why I asked for others to give me their personal definitions.

And you're right, Jamaica is not "the best," nor is it "so bad." It falls somewhere in between. For the record, the Bronx has "not so bad" areas as well. But I think when people start castigating entire neighborhoods as "bad," it's a problem. I think the point of this thread was to say that crime happens in all areas. Different types of crime, perhaps, but crime happens everywhere. I'm not sure that 'Seid illustrated his point in the best way by using St. Johns as an example, but it doesn't diminish the point.

Bottom line (and the reason why I made my initial replies to this thread): the "hood" is simply "home" to some people, and to call the place someone hails from a neighborhood that "blows" just isn't very nice.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

I know everyone has a different standard... which is why I asked for others to give me their personal definitions.

And you're right, Jamaica is not "the best," nor is it "so bad." It falls somewhere in between. For the record, the Bronx has "not so bad" areas as well. But I think when people start castigating entire neighborhoods as "bad," it's a problem. I think the point of this thread was to say that crime happens in all areas. Different types of crime, perhaps, but crime happens everywhere. I'm not sure that 'Seid illustrated his point in the best way by using St. Johns as an example, but it doesn't diminish the point.

Bottom line (and the reason why I made my initial replies to this thread): the "hood" is simply "home" to some people, and to call the place someone hails from a neighborhood that "blows" just isn't very nice.

People know their "hood" is run down and full of crime. If they had the money and the energy to deal with co-op boards, they'd be in my hood. And while crime happens all over, the types of crime and the number of times it happens is very different in Jamaica compared to other places.

-Rudey
--Yeah hunts point is a beautiful area...it doesn't blow at all.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by Rudey

-Rudey
--Yeah hunts point is a beautiful area...it doesn't blow at all.

At first when I saw this, I didn't get the sarcasm...Hunts Point is also a small town/neighborhood in the Seattle area that is the wealthiest in the state. I had to look it up to see if there was a Hunts Point in New York