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09-27-2007, 03:23 PM
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This is one of the many reasons I think it was a mistake to bring time travel (TT) into the show. Who's to say that Hiro is the only one who can do it? If all the "good" heroes eventually win, there's nothing that says the victory won't just be omitted by the "bad" hero who can TT and fix things the way (s)he wants to.
I realize it's a science fiction show, and TT is just part of it. But because of TT, the story will never feel like it can reach an actual conclusion (unless all the TT-capable heroes are killed off).
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09-27-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneyK
This is one of the many reasons I think it was a mistake to bring time travel (TT) into the show. Who's to say that Hiro is the only one who can do it? If all the "good" heroes eventually win, there's nothing that says the victory won't just be omitted by the "bad" hero who can TT and fix things the way (s)he wants to.
I realize it's a science fiction show, and TT is just part of it. But because of TT, the story will never feel like it can reach an actual conclusion (unless all the TT-capable heroes are killed off).
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"The battle for the future will be fought in he past"
...wasn't this a tagline from Terminator?
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09-27-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneyK
This is one of the many reasons I think it was a mistake to bring time travel (TT) into the show. Who's to say that Hiro is the only one who can do it? If all the "good" heroes eventually win, there's nothing that says the victory won't just be omitted by the "bad" hero who can TT and fix things the way (s)he wants to.
I realize it's a science fiction show, and TT is just part of it. But because of TT, the story will never feel like it can reach an actual conclusion (unless all the TT-capable heroes are killed off).
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Well we've only just seen our first duplication in powers. Also I don't think it's all that easy for Hiro, even Hiro who can stop time easily, to time travel. It tends to happen accidentally under severe stress. But time travel can have different rules... clearly Hiro will fix things because nothing has changed in the present, or this is what always happened in the first place. If he caused his lack of existence, would he disappear or continue on with no parents?
Moving outside of time for (relatively) short instances, or moving short distances without changing time seems par for the course. Making those BIG steps and moving distances and time aren't as easy. (Who's read A Swiftly Tilting Planet by Madeline L'Engle... same idea)
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09-27-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Well we've only just seen our first duplication in powers. Also I don't think it's all that easy for Hiro, even Hiro who can stop time easily, to time travel. It tends to happen accidentally under severe stress. But time travel can have different rules... clearly Hiro will fix things because nothing has changed in the present, or this is what always happened in the first place. If he caused his lack of existence, would he disappear or continue on with no parents?
Moving outside of time for (relatively) short instances, or moving short distances without changing time seems par for the course. Making those BIG steps and moving distances and time aren't as easy. (Who's read A Swiftly Tilting Planet by Madeline L'Engle... same idea)
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Octavia butler's Kindred dealt with Time travel in this manner as well
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09-27-2007, 09:18 PM
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Octavia butler's Kindred dealt with Time travel in this manner as well
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Yes! It's been a while since I read that series of hers so I'd forgotten.
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09-27-2007, 09:23 PM
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I am gonna sound nutsos for this...what EXACTLY is Nickie's power besides her uber strong other persona?
She's like a sexier scarier version of Harvey Dent.....
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09-27-2007, 10:35 PM
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I am gonna sound nutsos for this...what EXACTLY is Nickie's power besides her uber strong other persona?
She's like a sexier scarier version of Harvey Dent.....
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I think the consensus is, Niki's strong. Jessica is a real person, her sister, and has the ability to possess someone which she did before she died.
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09-27-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
I am gonna sound nutsos for this...what EXACTLY is Nickie's power besides her uber strong other persona?
She's like a sexier scarier version of Harvey Dent.....
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yeah, i don't really know if she has any other powers... I don't really get her character....
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10-01-2007, 09:29 PM
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This is going to a a real interesting season. 
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