advice needed

[GPhiBLtColonel]

Originally Posted by mpmgm

I only mentioned DG because they are a fairly new chapter and open rushed in recent years. They may be over total now.

....and you mentioned Gamma Phi because?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel

....and you mentioned Gamma Phi because?

I was wondering the same thing. From what I've read, our Auburn chapter seems pretty strong...I recall they got quota + last year as well as this year, don't know the numbers for the years prior.

[mpmgm]

GPhiB pledged a great girl from my hometown in COB two years ago under similar circumstances.....they got a top rushee that year who had otherwise fallen through the cracks during rush.

[summer_gphib]

I **think** that a few years ago, our Auburn chapter was struggling. Somewhere I saw the numbers, and it looks like they may have been the "small" chapter. (Not that there is necessarily anything WRONG with smaller chapters-- sometimes I think they are a real bonus.) Anyway, I don't think it was meant as offensive, although that was my first reaction too.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this! I now think our Auburn chapter is thriving. I personally think it's because we are colonizing like CRAZY and we're building a stronger presence in the south.

[tennesseemom]

Originally Posted by summer_gphib

I **think** that a few years ago, our Auburn chapter was struggling. Somewhere I saw the numbers, and it looks like they may have been the "small" chapter. (Not that there is necessarily anything WRONG with smaller chapters-- sometimes I think they are a real bonus.) Anyway, I don't think it was meant as offensive, although that was my first reaction too.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this! I now think our Auburn chapter is thriving. I personally think it's because we are colonizing like CRAZY and we're building a stronger presence in the south.

You are exactly right, Gamma Phi Beta at Auburn has had strong rushes in the recent years! They were able to snap up some girls who were "cut" and they were great girls, who have really helped the chapter thrive. It only takes one pledge class to turn around a chapter, either up or down!

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by tennesseemom

You are exactly right, Gamma Phi Beta at Auburn has had strong rushes in the recent years! They were able to snap up some girls who were "cut" and they were great girls, who have really helped the chapter thrive. It only takes one pledge class to turn around a chapter, either up or down!

I am so glad to hear that, ladies! We too, have re-colonized at Auburn after a try in the 70's that did not go as well as National hoped, and now we have a great group of girls. I think that Auburn has grown, and more girls from all around the country are finding out that it's a nice place to go to school - and that the opportunities there are growing as well!

[AUThetaChi]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I was wondering the same thing. From what I've read, our Auburn chapter seems pretty strong...I recall they got quota + last year as well as this year, don't know the numbers for the years prior.

One thing to remember is that GPhiB started its Auburn chapter sometime around 1995 so it is still new, relatively speaking. I understand that they are doing just fine now. DG is even newer, having returned a few years ago after a 30-year hiatus. They seem to be doing well too.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by AUThetaChi

One thing to remember is that GPhiB started its Auburn chapter sometime around 1995 so it is still new, relatively speaking. I understand that they are doing just fine now. DG is even newer, having returned a few years ago after a 30-year hiatus. They seem to be doing well too.

Not quite correct.

Gamma Phi Chapter of Gamma Phi Beta was founded at Auburn University in 1968.

[FSUZeta]

i believe that bama does have a separate "junior" quota(or free juniors if you will) but auburn does not.


susie can participate in informal(cob-continous open bidding)recruitment-she does need to get her name on the list. she should contact the greek life office.

[Low C Sharp]

Really? You know this how?

Well, the fact that it has apparently never happened is a factor. Have you ever heard of any alumna, from any group, anywhere, being removed from membership because of some publication they issued as a university employee (or anything of the kind)? I've never even heard rumor or gossip to that effect. In fact, I haven't heard of national GLOs expelling alum members in the last 30 years for anything short of stealing from HQ. Have you?

The director of Greek life at Alabama is a man, for whatever it's worth.

I really doubt the Greek advisor at someplace like Bama or Auburn is going to rock the Panhellenic boat in any way

That may be true, but that's enormously different from what you've been claiming (that they are bound by NPC rules and MUST follow them). If they or other Greek advisors are CHOOSING to follow NPC guidelines, then that's their choice as long as it's OK with their bosses. But they don't have to. If because of those rules, or for any other reason, Greek advisors deliberately leave PNMs in ignorance about what they need to do to prepare for rush, then their priorities are seriously out of whack, and they are letting their students down. This goes double for employees of public universities who, IMHO, have a state-funded obligation to try to build a Greek system that's as accessible as possible.
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[UGAalum94]

I love a hyper-technical back and forth as much as the next person, but as far as the can the campus do it if NPC forbids it debate, it's probably worth remembering that it's typically the campus panhellenic who produces and publishes the recruitment information.

So while I think the universities office of Greek Life and its employees are free to do what they want and think is in the best interested of the PNMs, the Panhellenic VP Recruitment probably isn't and any publications that are generated by the campus panhellenic probably scrupulously follow NPC rules and recommendations, I'm guessing.

Maybe that explains why you can sometimes find conflicting information about recs on the same website like UGA did last year. One source said, get recs; the other parroted the PNC party line

[Zillini]

The best advice I can offer to anyone who is associated with a University with a highly competitive Recruitment where upperclassmen are "penalized" is to present the proposal of a separate upperclassmen Quota. Take it to your Greek Advisor and/or to your Panhellenic. It benefits everyone involved, obviously the upperclassmen but also the Chapters.

The way it works at Bama is Panhellenic reports only the freshman Quota numbers to our Inat'ls. Upperclassmen new members are viewed as Quota Additions. So even if a Chapter doesn't make the freshmen Quota, they may still achieve Quota from a Inat'l statistical point of view with the upperclassmen. (Personal opinion, this might change if the UC Quota became large enough. However this year it was still only 7.) Another benefit is having been a college student, we know they are capable of making their grades. Last but certainly not least, we have gained some wonderful members over the years who were sophomores or juniors. Prior to this change these fabulous members would have had a slim chance of joining any sorority.

Remember Bama hasn't always had this in place. The idea and model came from Samford University (in Birmingham, AL) who had it for several years prior. The idea was brought up by several Chapter Advisors to the Asst Dean of Students (Greek Advisor). He investigated and agreed it had real merit. It opened up the Recruitment process and removed the stigma attached to upperclassmen.

Point being, new ideas and changes can be made on any campus but someone has to pursue it.