NPHC Secretiveness, Insularity, Etc.

[L.O.C.K.]

AKA_Monet, you're definitely right that not every Black person (or Latino/a, Asian, etc) will join an organization focusing on their community.

And a question (b/c I haven't really heard of this) how are NIC orgs changing their recruitment strategies? I haven't ever seen them at any cultural organizations participating (like our NAACP's Soul Review for example) so I'm just wondering.

And yes, the PWI thing is interesting. Definitely a very different culture than an HBCU. I've noticed a lot of girls on my campus who want to join a D4 sorority but approach it in totally the wrong way...most times they don't succeed in obtaining membership.

But I definitely think the culture of a PWI (and NPC/NIC Greek Life) influences how a person might attempt to join an NPHC organization b/c they think that Greeks might all have the same recruitment process.

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[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

And a question (b/c I haven't really heard of this) how are NIC orgs changing their recruitment strategies?

Well, just look in the opposite direction with Pi Kappa Alpha on Howard University's campus... And when these young men became members of this particular fraternity, the national office was ecstatic! Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

But it was VERY EASY for the Pikes to recruit these young men and entice them to join. It wasn't a difficult choice full of turmoil to join this fraternity. And I am sure there was something they offered to them to go all the way... I don't how they could have became a D9 Fraternity member... But what do I know

All I am saying is the IFC can put a little effort into it IF THEY WANTED TO and there were be major recruitment of ALL ethnic groups into their organizations at the collegiate level...

However, from a kids point of view, oh, they are are quick to learn... Hayle, they got accepted into these schools and nowadays, they don't accept dummies...

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Well, just look in the opposite direction with Pi Kappa Alpha on Howard University's campus... And when these young men became members of this particular fraternity, the national office was ecstatic! Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

But it was VERY EASY for the Pikes to recruit these young men and entice them to join. It wasn't a difficult choice full of turmoil to join this fraternity. And I am sure there was something they offered to them to go all the way... I don't how they could have became a D9 Fraternity member... But what do I know

All I am saying is the IFC can put a little effort into it IF THEY WANTED TO and there were be major recruitment of ALL ethnic groups into their organizations at the collegiate level...

However, from a kids point of view, oh, they are are quick to learn... Hayle, they got accepted into these schools and nowadays, they don't accept dummies...

Those men were an interest group that sought Pike, not the other way around.

Regarding "how" some of them became Kappas.... I am assuming that the Pike colonization process (like the APO extension process) culminates with initiation and chartering. Theoretically, they were free to leave the group and pledge any other organization as they were not initiates yet. (Again, speculation.)

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Those men were an interest group that sought Pike, not the other way around.

Why did they choose the Men of Pike? Nothing is wrong with with their choice. My issue is when the National Offices were informed of this interest group you had better believe a huge RED carpet was rolled out for them... Basically, allowing them to skate...

It is my understanding that when these boys became members, the real Greek Life Commitment was very different than what they fantasized as to how it ought to be.

Albeit, I admit it was a poor example, however, I still contend that if the IFC/NPC put some effort in their diversity marketing, they could garner the kinds of members they seek.

What will happen to us and the MCGLO's? Personally, in my opinion, we offer something completely different.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Why did they choose the Men of Pike? Nothing is wrong with with their choice. My issue is when the National Offices were informed of this interest group you had better believe a huge RED carpet was rolled out for them... Basically, allowing them to skate...

It is my understanding that when these boys became members, the real Greek Life Commitment was very different than what they fantasized as to how it ought to be.

Albeit, I admit it was a poor example, however, I still contend that if the IFC/NPC put some effort in their diversity marketing, they could garner the kinds of members they seek.

What will happen to us and the MCGLO's? Personally, in my opinion, we offer something completely different.

I doubt Pike violated it's colonization procedure because there was an interest group at a HBCU. There's not really "skating" in NIC fraternities, not in the same way as NPHC.

In my experience, on campuses that do not have MCGLOs and/or a strong NPHC presence, the fraternities are about as diverse as the school is. The sororities are as well. This is in the Midwest and YMMV elsewhere. Point being, I think they're getting the members they seek.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

I thought that NPHC organizations didn't accept people who held membership in NPC/NIC organizations? Or does that only hold true for the sororities and not the fraternities?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I thought that NPHC organizations didn't accept people who held membership in NPC/NIC organizations? Or does that only hold true for the sororities and not the fraternities?

As I said in my post, it is not known whether the members of the Pike colony were initiated members. If they were not initiates, that would generally not preclude them from becoming members of another fraternity.

However, I do not know if that was the case.

But no, NPHC fraternities do not allow it either.