Dirty Rush

[Faith4Keep]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Just remember that it's temporary and also remember that PROMOTING SORORITY RECRUITMENT AND THE BENEFITS OF MEMBERSHIP IN "A" SORORITY ARE NOT DIRTY RUSHING, IT IS PUBLIC RELATIONS!!!

Well... part of the dirty rushing rule is that we can't communicate with any PNMs with the exception of brief salutations. Here's an excerpt from one of the e-mails our VP Membership/Recruitment sent to us:


IMPORTANT !!
As a reminder, disaffilation (June 25-Bid Day) means that:

1. From the start of Summer B onward, communication between any member or alumna of a sorority and any PNM (any female student at UCF) must be limited to brief normal greetings. Please be careful of this, especially if you are friends with any PNMs! We get fined $100 for each time someone is caught associating with PNMs.

2. Girls who are rho gammas, recruitment exec, or pan exec and are disaffiliated from our chapter cannot be seen with members wearing letters or in cars with letters, or at any event where their affiliation could become known.

If you have any questions about Panhellenic rules or infractions, please contact me.

[adpiucf]

Yeah, but people do it anyway. Panhellenic isn't in your apartment with you 24/7, and you can't be completely anti-social if your non-sorority random roommate has friends over.
Just don't go out of your way to break the rules, but it's ok to be a nice person. UCF turns into the Rush Gestapo at this time of year, and I understand your feelings.

Also, Recruitment Counselors love receiving "We Miss You" cards and gifts during recruitment week. Don't forget about them!!!!!

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Faith4Keep

Well... part of the dirty rushing rule is that we can't communicate with any PNMs with the exception of brief salutations. Here's an excerpt from one of the e-mails our VP Membership/Recruitment sent to us:


IMPORTANT !!
As a reminder, disaffilation (June 25-Bid Day) means that:

1. From the start of Summer B onward, communication between any member or alumna of a sorority and any PNM (any female student at UCF) must be limited to brief normal greetings. Please be careful of this, especially if you are friends with any PNMs! We get fined $100 for each time someone is caught associating with PNMs.

2. Girls who are rho gammas, recruitment exec, or pan exec and are disaffiliated from our chapter cannot be seen with members wearing letters or in cars with letters, or at any event where their affiliation could become known.

If you have any questions about Panhellenic rules or infractions, please contact me.

I find it interesting they include alumnae, how can they possibly control and police people who are not their students.

[adpiucf]

They can't fine chapter for something an alum has done. That's an empty threat. But there are a good number of women who go alumna early (they find a loophole or end up taking longer than 4 years to graduate) or stay at UCF to do a master's program, so they're still up in everybody's business. It's a way for them to scare off those recent alums from causing trouble.

I think recent alums are the worst thing about sorority recruitment. They still think of it as "my chapter" and can't let go that they don't have any authority or say in what happens in the chapter anymore. And they involve themselves or create chapter drama because the sorority is still the most important thing in their lives.

I think the best thing you can do for a graduating senior is to invite her to an alumna event and sit her down for a firm yet gentle speech that communicates, "Your work has been appreciated, but your work here is done. Let's talk about your future as an alumna of XYZ..."

[TSteven]

It seems like most of the "dirty rushing" incidents being discussed has to do with current collegiate members talking to PNMs *at their school*.

Is it "dirty rushing" to promote one's sorority (for lack of a better phrase) at a national level? For example, say Molly Member is an ABC at a Midwestern university . Molly's friend will be attending a Southern college where there is also an ABC chapter. Molly, along with her chapter sisters, have promoted ABC to Molly's friend - both directly and indirectly - over the year(s).

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by TSteven

It seems like most of the "dirty rushing" incidents being discussed has to do with current collegiate members talking to PNMs *at their school*.

Is it "dirty rushing" to promote one's sorority (for lack of a better phrase) at a national level? For example, say Molly Member is an ABC at a Midwestern university . Molly's friend will be attending a Southern college where there is also an ABC chapter. Molly, along with her chapter sisters, have promoted ABC to Molly's friend - both directly and indirectly - over the year(s).

You cannot get a rush infraction for talking to a PNM from a different school.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

You cannot get a rush infraction for talking to a PNM from a different school.

Really?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Really?

How would they punish you? They can't hold your chapter at that school liable. That would be ridiculous. And the PHC on your campus isn't going to care.

ETA: It's kind of futile anyway. Your chapter may be absolutely nothing like the chapter on the other campus, and being that you have no power over the other chapter's MS, it wouldn't make any difference. You could talk up XYZ because your chapter is struggling, and the chapter that PNM meets is the top chapter and she doesn't even have a chance.

[FaithHopeLove]

I am young (just going to be a freshman), so maybe having not been Gree yet, I am wrong, but the "dirty rush" regulations seem overbearing.

I think the movements towards no frills rush and all of that jazz almost seem to just be less fun. I know all panhel. wants all sororities to have a fair playing field to get members so they want recruitment to be as fair and level as possible where sororities can't win members simply through a fancy rush or by sweet talking. However, I feel like it gets to the point where it is stifling.

I think that having a silence during rush week makes sense, but to start it a month before is rediculous. If a PMN has friends in XYZ, it will influence their decision to some extent regardless of whether or not that friend was allowed to talk to them troughout July.

I understand also why members cannot promise invitations/ bids as - once number allotments whittles down the list - they may have lied to the PNM. However, I think it is crazy that members have to think twice about whether or not they can say something like "Hope to see you tomorrow." That is being friendly and kid to the rushee.

I guess I just think that when I am (hopefully) a sister, it will seem rediculous how fine the line is between a friendly and dirty rush

[Faith4Keep]

I know nothing official, but my initial response would be that it depends on what year the PNM is. If the PNM is a sophomore or higher, doing deferred recruitment... i.e., already enrolled at a different school, then no I don't think promoting your chapter would be considered dirty rushing. However, if the PNM is a freshman and not technically enrolled in any school yet... then in might be considered dirty rushing.

Please don't let this into any sorority girl's head though- we already have enough trouble at my U with agents We don't need nearby schools/chapters teaming up and "not-dirty-rushing" each other's PNMs.