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07-06-2007, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by honeychile
But if you have a small business, and have another small business do some service (plumbing, electrical, roofing, etc), and offer to pay cash up front, you can usually save at least 20%.
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Originally Posted by Rudey
So basically you're aiding and abetting a crime? The reason why it's cash is because it's off the books and there are no taxes paid on it.
-Rudey
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Or because it's payment up front with no need for billing.
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That's a whole load of crap. Payment up front? It's not an AR issue. Pay with a credit card and it's paid up front. Pay with a bank check and it's up front. Pay with an online funds transfer and it's upfront. There are numerous ways to pay upfront that are trackable. Cash is not trackable. Contractors and small businesses stick to cash so that they can cheat on their taxes. It's not an issue of payment dates.
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
I don't have a small business, so I don't know. It seems like the business getting the work done would have a tax incentive to claim money that went back into the business, but I have nowhere near the experience with tax fraud that you apparently do.
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Originally Posted by Rudey
You're not much of a thinker. Again, there are numerous ways to pay upfront. To skip billing and take payment in an untraceable manner, a la cash or say...diamonds...is the clearest sign of keeping something off the books for either tax evasion or something more exotic, like money laundering and, oh say, terrorism financing. I'm glad I educated you. Next time, if you don't know about something you shouldn't make such suggestions.
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What about it? I made a comment on paying in cash to a small business owner. I didn't comment on anything else, whether it's murder or large-scale tax evasion. But there are laws for legitimate offshore income and black market activities, and if there's something beyond that which bothers you I assume someone who likes talking philosophy is good for that discussion.
-Rudey
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Hence why I posted about checks and other non-cash methods. But thanks for posting something completely useless and irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by kstar
Um, you really didn't touch on those reasons, you automatically assumed that small business owners are tax-evading losers. Thanks for being a dick, like you always are.
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Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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07-06-2007, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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Step 1: Calm Down
Step 2: Click on Rudey's username
Step 3: Click on "view all posts by this user"
Step 4: Read
Step 5: Comprehend how Rudey works, and apply here
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07-07-2007, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Step 1: Calm Down
Step 2: Click on Rudey's username
Step 3: Click on "view all posts by this user"
Step 4: Read
Step 5: Comprehend how Rudey works, and apply here
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Thanks. I will.
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07-07-2007, 01:01 PM
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Wow...this is a great vibe. It's like Daddy just hit Mommy at the dinner table and we are all trying to eat still. "Just eat honey, Mommy's OK. Daddy just got a little angry" (Child voice):"I don't wanna eat." "Mommy's fine, Daddy just got a little crazy and Mommy's fine." (Child Voice):"Do I have to eat?" "Yes you have to eat.
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can we get back on topic? i was actually enjoying this thread. kthxbye
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Do you know people? Have you interacted with them? Because this is pretty standard no-brainer stuff. -33girl
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07-07-2007, 03:29 PM
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Thanks. I will.
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Thanks for quoting her and forcing me to see what she wrote. She probably wrote that in between beatings from her abusive Mexican husband. I'll have to add you to my list of complete buffoons that are on ignore on GC.
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07-07-2007, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
Thanks for quoting her and forcing me to see what she wrote. She probably wrote that in between beatings from her abusive Mexican husband. I'll have to add you to my list of complete buffoons that are on ignore on GC.
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I think this will prove very mutually agreeable.
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07-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Step 1: Calm Down
Step 2: Click on Rudey's username
Step 3: Click on "view all posts by this user"
Step 4: Read
Step 5: Comprehend how Rudey works, and apply here
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Don't forget:
Step 6: Put Rudey on Ignore
Its so much easier to ignore his stupidity that way.
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07-07-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by _Lisa_
Don't forget:
Step 6: Put Rudey on Ignore
Its so much easier to ignore his stupidity that way.
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Supposedly you've got me on ignore and then come on to post out of the blue to tell me you've got me on ignore. Good job. You're not a bright bulb either.
-Rudey
--PS I was the one that put the idiots on ignore, so stop stealing my material dbag.
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07-07-2007, 07:55 PM
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Back on topic . . .
I worked for years at the Texas Renaissance Festival. Turkey legs that were not sold one year - were frozen and kept until the next year.
YUM.
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07-07-2007, 08:09 PM
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^^^ ewwwww!
i always think about that when drugstores sell all their Easter candy for 50% off the week after. what if they don't sell it? where do all the chocolate eggs and Peeps go? on the shelf for next year?
(makes me think of The Chocolate War... anyone, anyone?)
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07-07-2007, 08:16 PM
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At my house, we celebrate 50% off Chocolate Day on Feb. 15th!
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07-07-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
I worked for years at the Texas Renaissance Festival. Turkey legs that were not sold one year - were frozen and kept until the next year.
YUM.
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yuk. I use to go every year to the one in Magnolia Texas. Luckily I don't eat turkey but my friend would have a turkey leg every year. I will have to tell her what you said
OK one from me. If your (insert animal here, usually a dog) got into pot be honest with me. I can spot a pot dog coming in the door (so can most of the staff)and if you are not honest with me you will have about a 1000$ estimate. If you are honest with me then it will just be the exam fee and a "he'll sleep it off tonight" comment. I promise I won't call the police or CPS. Just tell me the truth. BTW I know your neighbor didn't just throw it in your yard either-get real
Also, if you are a dick to me about how long you have been waiting, you WILL be waiting much longer so be nice.
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07-09-2007, 11:26 AM
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From when I worked in jewelry:
- In my experience, ALWAYS buy the service plan when it comes to a nice piece of jewelry. When you buy the service plan, ALWAYS follow the terms of the agreement (usually coming in and having it cleaned and checked every so often). If you do this, the store will usually pay for anything that goes wrong... which can include replacing missing stones, prong retipping, new rhodium plating, all kinds of expensive things. But if you don't buy the service plan, or if you miss your inspection dates, and your big 1 carat stone pops out of its setting... we could care less if it's over 90 days. And you will be mad when you have to replace that big sucker on your own dime.
- We sell jewelry cleaner in a box, but what we use in our store's sonic cleaner is one part Mr. Clean, one part water. Use a toothbrush to get it really clean and don't forget to go behind the setting. People who don't take their rings off much have some really funky and gross stuff back there.
-Don't put your silver in regular cleaner though... use toothpaste for that or a cleaner for silver jewelry.
And from what I do now:
- Dollar store pregnancy tests are not accurate. If you want an accurate test, you need to buy the expensive kind in the store or you need to go to the doctor's office. (that may seem like common sense to some of you, but you never know...)
- You can be still getting some form of period every month and still be pregnant. You can still be pregnant and have a negative urine test. These are things that usually run in someone's family, so if you think you might be pregnant but you're still menstruating or you are still getting negatives at home, ask your mom or other family members who've been pregnant before. Sometimes you need a blood test or an ultrasound to confirm.
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07-06-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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You edited your first post because, in your own words, you didn't want to be a jerk. Hence you did the first insult. When kstar replied to me, she called me a dick (perhaps why her fiance dumped her - an attitude she has exhibited in multiple threads on multiple topics from USC football to politics). I believe that pretty much shuts down your argument on insulting. Regardless, insulting has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
The topic was saving money by paying in cash. Here's another way to make money. You have someone kill the person you owe money to. A bullet is really cheap actually. You didn't pull any trigger so you didn't commit a crime. Oh wait, you may just have. Again, the reason why people are so willing to accept cash is to cheat on taxes. It's a crime. I just gave you that information. Here's another analogy. Someone in the Congo cuts off a 12 year old boy's hand, enslaves his older brother to work in a diamond mine, then uses the diamonds to buy more machetes to cut more hands. You can get these blood diamonds at a substantial discount. 20% even maybe.
You made some ridiculous remark, realized you were wrong, said you weren't an expert, and instead of shutting up at that point you kept going with it. Do you think that perhaps now is the time to shutup?
If honeychile actually believes she's a good Christian, I'm sure she won't go around being an advocate of such a heinous act.
If you've got even an ounce of intelligence in you, you'll shutup now.
-Rudey
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07-07-2007, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
You edited your first post because, in your own words, you didn't want to be a jerk. Hence you did the first insult. When kstar replied to me, she called me a dick (perhaps why her fiance dumped her - an attitude she has exhibited in multiple threads on multiple topics from USC football to politics). I believe that pretty much shuts down your argument on insulting. Regardless, insulting has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
The topic was saving money by paying in cash. Here's another way to make money. You have someone kill the person you owe money to. A bullet is really cheap actually. You didn't pull any trigger so you didn't commit a crime. Oh wait, you may just have. Again, the reason why people are so willing to accept cash is to cheat on taxes. It's a crime. I just gave you that information. Here's another analogy. Someone in the Congo cuts off a 12 year old boy's hand, enslaves his older brother to work in a diamond mine, then uses the diamonds to buy more machetes to cut more hands. You can get these blood diamonds at a substantial discount. 20% even maybe.
You made some ridiculous remark, realized you were wrong, said you weren't an expert, and instead of shutting up at that point you kept going with it. Do you think that perhaps now is the time to shutup?
If honeychile actually believes she's a good Christian, I'm sure she won't go around being an advocate of such a heinous act.
If you've got even an ounce of intelligence in you, you'll shutup now.
-Rudey
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My original jerky remark was returning the favor of your having called me retarded in another thread about ugly flip-flops. Did you even see the unedited version? By your standards, I don't it even would have made an impression.
But even so, it's hard to think that my deletion of a rude comment somehow invalidates the fact that you're insulting as your basic MO on GC. Work it out as a syllogism and see. There's no way to arrive at that conclusion logically, is there?
I still don't think my original suggestion that a business might like cash upfront for reasons other than tax evasion was ridiculous. (I concede that I have no idea what percentage of business prefer cash up front strictly because they want to avoid taxes, but I bet you don't either.)
Nor did I at any time defend tax evasion.
It's interesting on a scale of pure outrageousness that you've tried to make avoiding paying taxes morally equivalent to committing murder and perpetrating violence in the diamond trade, but I'm sure your logical and thoughtful presentation convinced everyone reading the thread. Surely you must also believe that going 10 miles over the speed limit on the highway is just like selling heroin to school children.
I'm going to pretend I don't see any of your comments in the future and we'll both be happier.
Last edited by UGAalum94; 07-07-2007 at 01:21 AM.
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