Too fat to recruit: or, DePauw, the Sequel

[AlphaFrog]

I'm surprised in the PC-ness that NPC is becoming, they don't make a rule that all sororities can only have as many rushers on the floor as the number of members of the smallest chapter on campus. That way PNMs aren't judging on size.

I think it would be going completely PC-overboard, but I can't say that I don't eventually see it happening.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm surprised in the PC-ness that NPC is becoming, they don't make a rule that all sororities can only have as many rushers on the floor as the number of members of the smallest chapter on campus. That way PNMs aren't judging on size.

I think it would be going completely PC-overboard, but I can't say that I don't eventually see it happening.

Some schools already do this for activity days or the first Meet the Greeks type round - you can only have 15 or however many sisters at the table. Obviously, though, once you go to the next round you realize who has 20 and who has 95.

Unless you mean doing it for all of rush, and (depending on the group's voting rules) that might go against some groups' bylaws. That is - if everyone can only have 20 members rushing cause that's the size of the smallest chapter, the larger ones might only have 1/4 of their members who have met the PNMs. Either they wouldn't be able to vote anyone in or PNMs would have to be voted on sight unseen.

Yikes. Talk about a cluster#$%k.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Haha, I'm definately NOT a woman. I just noticed how popular this thread was and thought I'd better tell it how it is. Besides, would a woman really write that?

Haha, we just figured only a girl would understand.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

Haha, we just figured only a girl would understand.

Maybe that is the problem, High I am a Barbi and I should fit!


Or not!

Maybe small minds fit?

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Maybe that is the problem, High I am a Barbi and I should fit!

Or not!

Maybe small minds fit?

It's hard for people from outside a system to understand why it works the way it works. Since SECdomination really seems to get it and a lot of guys don't (because fraternity rush is so different), SydneyK and I assumed he was a chick. But I'm guessing he has a lot of friends in sororities and just has a good understanding of how things work in our recruitment.

Does this answer what you're asking? Your post makes very little sense.

[FSUZeta]

folks, it is not just in recruitment. i distinctly remember reading an aol story a year or two ago that showed statistics on how overweight people are discriminated against in both hirings and promotions.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

folks, it is not just in recruitment. i distinctly remember reading an aol story a year or two ago that showed statistics on how overweight people are discriminated against in both hirings and promotions.

I remember reading a similar story where an executive said that he considered people who were more conventionally attractive for positions that involved in-person interaction with clients (while he didn't mind hiring people who were less attractive for positions where interaction was over the phone). Sad, and I can't relate because in my career weight and attractiveness aren't really issues, but I guess in some careers that is the way it is. I suppose I can't really comment on how unfair it is because I don't work in a field where it matters.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I remember reading a similar story where an executive said that he considered people who were more conventionally attractive for positions that involved in-person interaction with clients (while he didn't mind hiring people who were less attractive for positions where interaction was over the phone). Sad, and I can't relate because in my career weight and attractiveness aren't really issues, but I guess in some careers that is the way it is. I suppose I can't really comment on how unfair it is because I don't work in a field where it matters.

I think we all know that generally attractive people have an advantage and that it seems that weight would figure in to that too.

But we all know overweight people or less attractive people who we know are very competent or who on a personal level we even, dare I say it, love?

That's what's so craptacular about what was suggested in the first post. Despite actually choosing and knowing this young woman as a sorority sister, the group said simply and apparently without much explanation that she should just stay away. And even recognizing that you have to sometimes hurt people's feelings to have a good recruitment, that's just not acceptable.

[Low C Sharp]

You're saying that your friends wanted to be pi chis because they just can't stand being at selection meetings any more?

Or are you saying that their chapters wanted them to be pi chis because they were fighting with the rest of the chapter at selection time?
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[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

They can't stand being at the selection meetings.

I guess that they'd prefer the unhappy, crying girls to at least be near-strangers?

Seriously, this is one that I don't think you can win, but being a recruitment counselor is probably less likely to make you want to quit your own group.

[susan314]

I'm just curious as to how many people in this thread have ever had to be a part of recruitment with a struggling chapter. (Whether as an active member or an alumnae volunteer/advisor.)

I've had to go through the wringer with 2 chapters, and I tell you - unless you've been there, its hard to understand.

[ChildoftheHorn]

I know someone who decided to be a Rho Chi because she wanted to get some sleep those weeks. Last year, her group was up debating until 8-10AM the next day, each day!

In her case, I would say it is favorable.

I also know that some groups have rules about what you can say about PNM's. EX: Only positive things or that you cannot say anything really mean. A few of my relatives groups had this mandated by nationals from what they said, others just had it as a general policy.

I guess somethings got out of the grapevine at some places.

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

I guess that they'd prefer the unhappy, crying girls to at least be near-strangers?

Seriously, this is one that I don't think you can win, but being a recruitment counselor is probably less likely to make you want to quit your own group.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

A couple of my good friends (from top chapters, mind you) are going to be Pi Chis (Rho Gammas?) this year. I asked why, and I got a very long lesson on the ins and outs of sorority rush.
Apparantly, the bid meetings are brutal and end with many crying girls threating to quit...

Oh, I hear that all the time, especially that seniors fight to be counselors.