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Old 06-22-2007, 10:05 AM
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I understand exactly what censorship is--I simply believe there are various degrees of censorship, some of which are more serious than others.
If you think that ratings = censorship, apparently you don't understand exactly what censorship is.

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Censorship: deleting parts of publications or correspondence or theatrical performances
Assuming that this definition is correct, which I wouldn't (it's the last definition given at dictionary.com, and unlike with the other, more specific definitions, the source isn't even an actual, widely-relied on dictionary), what does it have to do with TV, movie or CD ratings? It was ratings, not deletions from performances, that you said were censorship.

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Definitions are courtesy of dictionary.com, by the way.
Take a look at the primary definition of "censor" at your source, dictionary.com:

an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.

Likewise, the definitions from the American Heritage Dictionary are:

A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and official dispatches to remove information considered secret or a risk to security.


Last time I checked, neither Walmart nor a movie theater are "officials," nor are the "authorized" by anyone to do anything. (And others are right -- Wal-Mart can't edit copyrighted CDs or DVDs. They can and do sell "cleaned-up" versions produced by the companies who make the CDs or DVDs.)

Even by the secondary definition you posted, in what way does Wal-Mart, a movie theater or a store have any power to "supervise" your manners or morality? They don't.

As a verb, it means:

to examine and act upon as a censor.
to delete (a word or passage of text) in one's capacity as a censor


Sorry, but ratings are not censorship. Calling them censorship doesn't change the fact that they're not.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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If you think that ratings = censorship, apparently you don't understand exactly what censorship is.

Assuming that this definition is correct, which I wouldn't (it's the last definition given at dictionary.com, and unlike with the other, more specific definitions, the source isn't even an actual, widely-relied on dictionary), what does it have to do with TV, movie or CD ratings? It was ratings, not deletions from performances, that you said were censorship.

Take a look at the primary definition of "censor" at your source, dictionary.com:

an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.

Likewise, the definitions from the American Heritage Dictionary are:

A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and official dispatches to remove information considered secret or a risk to security.


Last time I checked, neither Walmart nor a movie theater are "officials," nor are the "authorized" by anyone to do anything. (And others are right -- Wal-Mart can't edit copyrighted CDs or DVDs. They can and do sell "cleaned-up" versions produced by the companies who make the CDs or DVDs.)

Even by the secondary definition you posted, in what way does Wal-Mart, a movie theater or a store have any power to "supervise" your manners or morality? They don't.

As a verb, it means:

to examine and act upon as a censor.
to delete (a word or passage of text) in one's capacity as a censor


Sorry, but ratings are not censorship. Calling them censorship doesn't change the fact that they're not.

Sorry, but I think they are--and of course, anyone is free to disagree. There are many definitions of what censorship is, which is what I am pointing out. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that my point isn't valid, nor does my opinion negate yours. I'm done with this thread. Bye! Have fun arguing with yourselves.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:12 AM
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Sorry, but I think they are--and of course, anyone is free to disagree. There are many definitions of what censorship is, which is what I am pointing out. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that my point isn't valid, nor does my opinion negate yours

I think a cat is a purple amphibian that lays eggs and then eats its young.

ITS TRUE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry, we won't let the facts interfere with your opinion.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:15 AM
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Sorry, but I think they are
Would that thinking so made it so.
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