Fox gives less attention to Iraq war study shows

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by RACooper

No I think responsibility carries the correct connotation here, in that you and you actions are responsible in some small part for the actions and policies of those you elect; whether it be a individual responsibility or collective one - a strictly neutral term. Where connotation comes into play is in the interpretation of the term, either implying fault or praise depending on the rest of the statement or argument...

Beyond the "fault or praise" portion (which, in most cases, veers violently more toward the 'fault' side I would posit), the denotation of "responsibility" carries some degree of burden of active involvement - see the common usage of "taking responsibility" for example.

Besides this, you are explicitly playing "Monday morning quarterback" - this is a problem, because it does not hold every side 'responsible' in the same fashion (it tends to punish those more actively involved to a much greater extent) and it's somewhat fallacious from a logical basis.

And even beyond THAT, the original statement was short-sighted and needlessly inflammatory, essentially breaking down to "people who voted for Bush have blood on their hands." If you carry your argument to its logical conclusion, anyone who agreed with the war (which includes a majority of congress and about half of its Democrats), along with anyone who did not actively and completely work against the war effort, also has blood on their hands (after all, they 'let' this happen just as explicitly as I did if I voted for Bush, no? Enablers, all of us). It's asinine, really.

[AlethiaSi]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

hey Daemon!

if i am correct, CNN and MSNBC are more liberal stations, while FOX is considered conservative. lets face it, the conservatives voted for Bush, who in turn started the war, and majorly screwed everything up. so if you voted him into office, why fill your evening being bombarded with the site of countless soldiers you helped to kill?

i didnt vote for him. i stood an hour and a half in a line to vote OPPOSITE him. so i make it my business to keep myself educated as to how many soldiers i tried to bring home, and pray for my family and friends who are still there...GO CNN AND MSNBC!! Hurray for the TRUTH!

I agree with you onetimeSBX.

Originally Posted by macallan25

How fucking dare you say that you worthless, liberal, tree hugging piece of shit.

Yup, thanks, I AM A LIBERAL TREE HUGGING PIECE OF S***. I'm also proud of it. I won't go into my ideals, because honestly, arguing is a waste of my time, i believe what I want to believe and you believe what you want to. I still think you are wrong.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi

I agree with you onetimeSBX.

Yup, thanks, I AM A LIBERAL TREE HUGGING PIECE OF S***.

I'm sorry.

I'm also proud of it. I won't go into my ideals, because honestly, arguing is a waste of my time, i believe what I want to believe and you believe what you want to. I still think you are wrong.

Yeah, you're right.......arguing would be a waste of your time. In all honesty, if you "agree" with everything she said then you are just as big an idiot. Not only were her thoughts completely incorrect and ill-informed....... they were completely uncalled for and nothing short of ludicrous.

Please though......tell me how I'm "wrong". I'd love to hear it. I have no problems with you not agreeing with my opinions....you are perfectly entitled to that. But if you think I'm wrong about the statistics and absolute facts that I posted........then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe do some research and enlighten yourself. It's not hard to find, very quickly, that a majority of Congress, including Democrats, voted in favor of a Declaration of War and that close to 80% of the American population agreed with them at the time.