Why I Left GreekChat

[susan314]

So many thoughts are running through my mind right now, I'm not even sure how to express them. (Actually, I won't express most of my thoughts, because they aren't necessarily appropriate to share here.)

All I will say is this - please don't assume that this person represents the opinion of GreekChat as a whole.

[Tom Earp]

Hope you check this site. I am going to PM you so please keep checking.

Not one person does a Greek Chat Site make.

[fantASTic]

Besides agreeing with the above posts, I would like to say that Delta Zeta is one of the MOST prominent sororities at my school. We do socials and workshops with them often, and they are just a wonderful group of girls. I can't imagine this actually being true.

[mystikchick]

though i am not greek, nor am i privy to any of the messages being allegedly tossed around, your perspective is a unique one. it's so lovely to hear from a dad who so wholeheartedly supports his daughter and the organization that she clearly loves. for someone who says their post is not out to be mean-spirited, she says some extremely nasty things, including insinuating that your daughter only got a bid because dz was desperate to make quota. i have so many questions about what she said in her message (not least of which is how she knows about these messages as she isn't a very active GC member), but i hope you reconsider.

[susan314]

I find this line from the PM particularly amusing:

i really try to have a great panhellenic spirit and always strive for greek unity

[Drolefille]

I've never heard such things about DZ nor never seen anyone haranguing you for it.

The poster who PM'd you is either ridiculously inactive on GC or using a sockpuppet. Quite brave of her to hide behind another name for such an "old poster who never posts" anymore with her *12 posts* I'm so glad she's taking the "fall" and being "nice" with her diatribe. She also went back and delted her posts, she's down to 3 now and edited a 2005 post in March of 07.

She sounds like one of those people who think being in the "top three" at an SEC school is the only way to be Greek. And quite Classy of her to write you a long post about it.

Also, feel free to brag about your daughter as much as you would like. Bragging about one chapter on campus does not imply the rest of them suck. We all know you're a dad of a DZ, we expect to hear about DZ from you.

[DZRose]

I can't even begin to express how I feel about that post. I really am nearly speechless. While I try to write off people like this, the fact that this person went to this amount of effort is remarkable and even though I know that there is no foundation in ANYTHING she has said, it is extremely hurtful to read it and know there are probably others out there who believe it as well. How sad it must be for her to feel like this would have had any kind of positive impact, like there was some "great secret" no one was telling you. Apparently she didn't tell the over 180,000 collegiate and alumnae members of Delta Zeta either. I can only imagine what they would say to her should they read what she said and have an opportunity to meet her on the street.

While everyone on GC has their own opinion about what has happened at DePauw, not once have I read about any of them asserting that this was a sorority-wide issue. In fact, most posts have made an effort to point out that this was a relatively isolated incident and that to apply it to Delta Zeta as a whole would be wrong. For this person to go out of her way to disrespect an entire sorority and state things that are completely false is beyond me.

I am thrilled that your daughter is my sister. I am thrilled about ALL of my sisters regardless of where they were members or what they look like.

Thank you for supporting the sorority your daughter loves so much...

In the Flame,
DZRose

[ladygreek]

Considering the redundancyof that PM, the poster could have said everything she had to say in two paragraphs.

To me, she is the one who looks stupid.

BamaDad, don't sweat it. I'm a HowardMom and proud of my daughter's choice of sorority, too.

[Senusret I]

Regarding the comments about DZ in the PM..... I agree with DSTCHAOS.

But seriously.....BamaDad.... Dave....I value your opinions and appreciate your insight. But do you really have to announce that your daughter is a Delta Zeta at 'Bama in all of your posts? I think people here can appreciate you for you. PLENTY of people are not members of GLOs on this site.

If you want to be a member of GC, then be a member. But don't expect any sympathy because you received a PM that you didn't like.

Have your own identity and post away!

(Also, for safety and privacy reasons, I seriously wouldn't harp on the fact that your daughter is a Bama DZ.)

[DSTCHAOS]

I just skimmed that ridiculously long PM. Don't see what the big deal is. That person was being honest based on her perception. Nothing particularly offensive or immature about it. Perhaps some people were making fun of you and whatever else. It's not that serious either way.

One person doesn't make a site. That goes for people who stay and leave. So I'm not sure why it matters why you left GreekChat.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Don't see what the big deal is. That person was being honest based on her perception.

My issue with the PM he received is that the individual presented her statements as some sort of commonly accepted fact, rather than as her own opinion.

(Obviously what anyone says in a post should be interpreted as opinion, but the writer did try to assert her "opinion" as "fact." That was what I found to be offensive about it.)

[honeychile]

While I really don't care to tear someone down, I'm going to make an exception with this person.

First of all, BamaDad DZ, I have heard nothing but good about you and your daughter since the day either of you showed up on GreekChat. I know that I've missed your posts, and doubt that I'm alone in feeling that way.

If you look at her profile, KaiKey has deleted all but 2 of her 12 posts - on threads that were about "loser sororities". The fact that she even took the time to write such a nasty-o-gram shows you a bit more of her personality.

She doesn't know much about the NPC, either. Delta Zeta has a lot of closed chapters because they made some wise choices in the first half of the twentieth century - absorbing several smaller sororities, many of which were on the same campus and/or teacher's sororities. So, one of those chapters had to close - that's why so many chapters are closed! I've been to a lot of campuses, and I can't say that Delta Zeta was a weak link on any one of them! Two of the DZ's with whom I've had the pleasure of working were Homecoming Queens - and trust me, neither were a fluke!

Yes, there's a dust up right now, and some people are having a bit too much fun with it - to quote SWTXBelle, "there but for the grace of God". But dust settles, and while DZ isn't going to win sainthood at DePauw, most reasonable GC posters know that it's ONE incident on ONE campus that probably should have been handled differently.

But to paint the rest of the lovely ladies of Delta Zeta with KaiKey's paintbrush would be a tragic mistake. Please take her PM for what it's worth, and put it through the shredder! She's the type of person who gives whatever she touches a bad name.

[AlexMack]

For clarification sake-Teh Cult has never made fun of Bamadad DZ, to my knowledge (and as the self-appointed leader, I'm hoping I would know). It's really bad taste to try bringing other groups of people into a personal opinion. We don't know who Kaikey is but she doesn't speak for us.
On that note, BamaDad, you're going to do what you feel is best. That PM was way harsh. Just know that you were never a target of Teh Cult.
Also, really bad form hammering on DZ like that. I think everyone of us here has made it clear that we do not feel that IO's actions speak for DZ as a whole and we were condemning a few sisters, not the whole organization through the Depauw debacle.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by centaur532

For clarification sake-Teh Cult has never made fun of Bamadad DZ, to my knowledge (and as the self-appointed leader, I'm hoping I would know). It's really bad taste to try bringing other groups of people into a personal opinion. We don't know who Kaikey is but she doesn't speak for us.

Too funny. I imagined you at a podium with this intro.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Teh Cult

Is it really "Teh Cult"? I assumed that was a typo in the PM bamadad posted, and it should have been "the" instead of "Teh".

(Then again, I wasn't aware that such a thing existed in the first place...)