How does your school handle bidless PNMs on bid day?

33girl · #1 05-21-2007, 09:40 AM

If you don't make quota on bid day itself, can't you keep snapping a few days after that?

aephi alum · #2 05-21-2007, 10:32 AM

Technically that would be a COB, but I don't see why not. Any chapter that doesn't make quota and/or is under total can COB at pretty much any time, including right after FR.

33girl · #3 05-21-2007, 10:45 AM

yeah we never really differentiated between cob & snapping. There were times we gave girls bids on bid day who hadn't been through rush, but they'd been to our open bid parties. This was a long time ago though.

I would think that at some point you would say OK I'm going to bid day now, and stop worrying about snapping/cobing.

UGAalum94 · #4 05-21-2007, 07:16 PM

Although it's hard for me to imagine recruitment going on a SEC schools while classes are in session (I know that a couple of them do it), I do think of the big disadvantages of rush before school starts is that PNM have no perspective. Almost every single person you talk to is drinking the NPC Kool-Aid. (On some campuses, aren't the dorms only open to girls participating in recruitment until maybe the last weekend.)

I think having non-greek campus folks make contact with PNM who get cut or drop out could be a great step. There are always some campus activity leaders who aren't Greek who might even be honored to be asked to do this. Because they'd clearly be happy, involved, successful people, the PNMs would see that life goes on just fine.

Ocalagirl · #5 05-21-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I think having non-greek campus folks make contact with PNM who get cut or drop out could be a great step. There are always some campus activity leaders who aren't Greek who might even be honored to be asked to do this. Because they'd clearly be happy, involved, successful people, the PNMs would see that life goes on just fine.

I agree. It is really hard to listen to sympathy from greek members. It comes across that why am I not good enough to make it into one, but I am listening to a women who was good enough to get in. Sooner or later, you realize you are just as good as they are but it was just the luck of the draw you didn't get in. The other really hard part is that first week or so when you see everyone on campus in their bid day shirts and bags. I think a non-greek woman breaking the news would have come across alot better than a Rho Gamma calling for one minute to let you know you didn't get an invite.

epchick · #6 06-08-2007, 02:06 AM

At my school, Rho Chi's are suppose to call you before Bid Day if you didn't get a bid, so that you didn't show up to Bid Day.

I'm so sorry if this has been asked....but i was wondering if you guys can give me a run down (maybe in lay-man's terms? lol) of quota additions and what happens when girls don't get bids.

Here was my situation in the fall:

So supposedly there were 35 PNMs going through recruitment, and quota was set at 17. Well 17 + 17= 34, which meant that one lone PNM would be dropped from both groups (regardless of where she was placed on their list). (this is where it gets confusing). We according to what i was told, I was the 35th person to be matched, but by the time they had gotten to me quota had been filled (and i was told by each sorority that I had been on their "A" list), so I didn't get the bid. Supposedly, one sorority wanted me as their 18th person, but the other sorority wouldn't allow it because they wouldn't get the extra person. Wouldn't I have been considered a quota addition? It never really seemed logical to me, but BOTH sororities told me the same story, so I believed it.

How is this type of situation handled at your school?

KSUViolet06 · #7 06-08-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick

At my school, Rho Chi's are suppose to call you before Bid Day if you didn't get a bid, so that you didn't show up to Bid Day.

I'm so sorry if this has been asked....but i was wondering if you guys can give me a run down (maybe in lay-man's terms? lol) of quota additions and what happens when girls don't get bids.

Here was my situation in the fall:

So supposedly there were 35 PNMs going through recruitment, and quota was set at 17. Well 17 + 17= 34, which meant that one lone PNM would be dropped from both groups (regardless of where she was placed on their list). (this is where it gets confusing).

I tell every PNM who hears a "bid matching mistake" story from sorority members about why they didn't get a bid to ignore it because usually it's never the truth. They weren't there and most of the time, they don't really understand bid matching anyway.

I would like to think I understand bid matching well. Corect me if I'm wrong but:

This story is false. The extra girl wouldn't just be dropped. She'd be matched as a quota addition to one of the sororities (assuming she preffed and ranked both of them).

dukemama · #8 05-21-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I think having non-greek campus folks make contact with PNM who get cut or drop out could be a great step. There are always some campus activity leaders who aren't Greek who might even be honored to be asked to do this. Because they'd clearly be happy, involved, successful people, the PNMs would see that life goes on just fine.

Speaking as one who has been there, amen to that!

UGAalum94 · #9 05-21-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I think having non-greek campus folks make contact with PNM who get cut or drop out could be a great step. There are always some campus activity leaders who aren't Greek who might even be honored to be asked to do this. Because they'd clearly be happy, involved, successful people, the PNMs would see that life goes on just fine.

I know it's weird to quote myself, but I wanted to make clear that I didn't imagine the non-greeks doing the actual notifying of not getting bids, but that they could follow up with girls who didn't end up matching. sort of like the paired up Rho Gammas and bidless girls, but maybe one better because it would be a totally new option on campus.

DeltaBetaBaby · #10 05-23-2007, 12:14 AM

Yeah, that was kinda my thinking when I first posted it. I don't know who you'd pick, exactly...unless you had one non-Greek Rho Chi in each group from the beginning.

KSUViolet06 · #11 05-23-2007, 02:42 PM

Nothing anyone says is particularly comforting to a girl who is dealing with what is quite possibly the first rejection she's ever had in her life.

In addition, I think that having a non Greek say stuff like "You can have fun at college without being in a sorority. I'm involved in governement, rec league soccer, etc" is not going to comfort her. If she wanted government or soccer, she would've joined that in the first place.

It's like when people suggest that girls join other groups on GC when girls go bidless. It doesn't help because it's not what they want. She wants bigs/littles, date parties, block seating at football games, formal, etc.

I think a preofessional counselor being available is a good idea though because they are a trained professional.