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Old 05-15-2007, 10:07 PM
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Fellow GCers:

I consider myself to be a great writer, but there are times when I get stuck with words and need help. Everyone has a problem area when it relates to grammar. So let's discuss it and learn from each other.

Here are my issues. When do you use:

Effect/affect

whose/whom/who

I also have problems with prepositions, but I can't think of an example right now.

Soror MzDiscreet, I know you can help me out with some of this stuff.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:14 PM
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How to use effect versus affect even has a little test


From Spelling and Grammar Rules You Should Know


WHO'S/WHOSEThis is one of those cases where it is important to remember that possessive pronouns never take apostrophes, even though possessive nouns do (see it's/its). "Who's" always and forever means only "who is," as in "Who's that guy with the droopy mustache?" or " who has," as in "Who's been eating my porridge?" "Whose" is the possessive form of "who" and is used as follows: "Whose dirty socks are these on the breakfast table?"

Who/Whom Usage

I found the who/whom very helpful just now as I read over the rule.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:19 PM
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Awww, man, I had a great message typed out with examples and everything, but I got beat to it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:20 PM
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How to use effect versus affect even has a little test


From Spelling and Grammar Rules You Should Know


WHO'S/WHOSEThis is one of those cases where it is important to remember that possessive pronouns never take apostrophes, even though possessive nouns do (see it's/its). "Who's" always and forever means only "who is," as in "Who's that guy with the droopy mustache?" or " who has," as in "Who's been eating my porridge?" "Whose" is the possessive form of "who" and is used as follows: "Whose dirty socks are these on the breakfast table?"

Who/Whom Usage

I found the who/whom very helpful just now as I read over the rule.
That was timely and helpful Soror CT4. The who/whom really makes sense to me now Thanks.

I'll continue to post because I have a lot of areas of weakness.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:37 PM
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Soror MzDiscreet, I know you can help me out with some of this stuff.
I'll be happy to help in any way I can
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:06 PM
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Seen vs. saw?
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:16 PM
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Saw is past tense and seen is past participle I think. I may be messing up the terminology, but seen is used with helping verbs like 'have': I saw vs. I have seen.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:16 AM
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I wish some folks would stop throwing an apostrophe in front of every 's' that falls at the end of a word.



And some folks need a constant refresher pertaining to the difference between its and it's. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:26 AM
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I hate it when people confuse "your" and "you're". I even corrected my daughter's hand-made Mother's Day Card for this!!!

She wrote: YOUR the best mother

I said: NO, it should read YOU'RE the best mother. You're is the contraction of

YOU ARE
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:27 AM
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Double negatives are SO unattractive. And stop saying 'the' before stuff that shouldn't have a 'the.' Your dog does NOT have "the mange" he just has mange. And your son doesn't like to go outside and play "the basketball."
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:29 AM
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I hate it when people confuse "your" and "you're". I even corrected my daughter's hand-made Mother's Day Card for this!!!

She wrote: YOUR the best mother

I said: NO, it should read YOU'RE the best mother. You're is the contraction of YOU ARE
While I hope the poor baby's feelings weren't hurt after all her hard work, every moment is a teachable moment.

Grown, college educated folks still make that mistake....
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:29 AM
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thanks for who/whom rule. that's the first time it's been explained in a simple manner. i find i have an issue with spelling using the "i" "e" before "c" rule. example: their, friend, etc. how do you know?
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:37 AM
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i find i have an issue with spelling using the "i" "e" before "c" rule. example: their, friend, etc. how do you know?
"I" before "E" except after "C" and when sounding as "A" as in "neighbor" and "weigh."
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:17 AM
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"I" before "E" except after "C" and when sounding as "A" as in "neighbor" and "weigh."
And when that doesn't work and you stare at it for five minutes trying to decide, click the spell check button
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:19 AM
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And when that doesn't work and you stare at it for five minutes trying to decide, click the spell check button
Yeah, that was implied.
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