White men in NPHC

[Laak 315]

So you're basically saying that it is your belief that predominantly white fraternitites/sororities only accept minorities into their organization because they feel they need to fill a quota or just so they can say they include all people? You don't believe there are any predominantly white fraternities/sororities that accept minorities because of what they contribute to the organization or because the white members truly believe that the person in question has a lot to offer? That's what I'm getting from your statement.

[Wolfman]

Pas de tout! I don't even understand your reply, if you are addressing my post. I was specifically addressing some attitudes expressed in this thread and hopefully trying to bring some clarity to this sentiments expressed, that to automatically to label them "racist" may not be totally accurate; there more to it than that, it'a more complicated than what can parse from the words. They have to be put in their proper socio-historical context. It's about understanding and shedding light.

Originally Posted by Laak 315

So you're basically saying that it is your belief that predominantly white fraternitites/sororities only accept minorities into their organization because they feel they need to fill a quota or just so they can say they include all people? You don't believe there are any predominantly white fraternities/sororities that accept minorities because of what they contribute to the organization or because the white members truly believe that the person in question has a lot to offer? That's what I'm getting from your statement.

[Laak 315]

I understood credibility to be the underlying issue...

[Wolfman]

Unwittingly, you've made my point! Thanks. Nuff said.

Originally Posted by Laak 315

I understood credibility to be the underlying issue...

[Laak 315]

credibility is open to interpretation...someone's credibility is not set in stone just because of one person's opinion...that would be faulty rhetoric

[PrettyBoy]

Black greek organizations and white greek organizations are still very segregated, which is unfortunate. My fraternity was founded based on "Achievement". Our Founding Fathers specifically said that it didn't matter what race, or religion a man was/is even though Kappa Alpha Psi was founded on Christain beliefs. I joined this fraternity, so I have to stick with what the founders said. It doesn't matter, as long as the member will make the fraternity better than what it is. Me personally, I wouldn't join a WGLO because I find them quite boring, and also because some of the things they do don't fit me. Still, I would never discourage a white man from joining my fraternity and becoming my brother.

Of course, unless I didn't like his character.

[rhoyaltempest]

I don't post much but I just had to add my 2 cents to this one. If you are really sincere in wanting to join one of the D9 fraternities and you truly can embrace the idea of serving the African American community for the rest of your life, then I say go for it...as long as you understand what kind of commitment you'd be making. As for getting accepted, you'll never know until you try.

And just to show everyone that we're not lieing when we say we have non-Black members, below are some of the members from our Iota Psi chapter at the University of Michigan (view their site at http://www.umich.edu/~sgrho/). As you can see, this chapter is pretty diverse.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Black greek organizations and white greek organizations are still very segregated, which is unfortunate. My fraternity was founded based on "Achievement". Our Founding Fathers specifically said that it didn't matter what race, or religion a man was/is even though Kappa Alpha Psi was founded on Christain beliefs. I joined this fraternity, so I have to stick with what the founders said. It doesn't matter, as long as the member will make the fraternity better than what it is. Me personally, I wouldn't join a WGLO because I find them quite boring, and also because some of the things they do don't fit me. Still, I would never discourage a white man from joining my fraternity and becoming my brother.

Of course, unless I didn't like his character.

What about our organizations do you find "boring"? Please humor me.

........yeah, too bad we don't line up on stage, yell, and do choreographed ridiculous dances. I guess we are pretty boring....what, with only our formals, bar tabs, philanthropy events, game days, exchanges, rush trips, retreats, parties, etc. etc. etc. to fall back on.