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05-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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I think people don't differentiate between degrees of driving while intoxicated.
They think of the worse things that have happened and suddenly anyone at the limit is a murderer. Regardless of how they are driving.
Thats not rational. Thats an emotive argument and can't be argued against.
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There is absolutely no excuse for drinking and driving. Absolutely NONE! There are too many irresponsible and reckless idiots in the world doing this that end up killing and hurting people and families. She should not be pardoned for whatever reason. I saw an online petition on her myspace page asking for her fans to sign the petition so that the governor of CA can pardon her. 
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05-08-2007, 05:03 PM
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this is unfortunate for her but i think it is good to show people that you can get out of things no matter how much money you have. When is she exactly going?
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05-08-2007, 05:19 PM
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If she will serve her term... from the article I doubt it. They are appealing of course and if she is like Michelle Rodriguez she may only serve four hours.
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I saw an online petition on her myspace page asking for her fans to sign the petition so that the governor of CA can pardon her. 
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My buddy Sean was the prosecuting attorney at Michelle Rodriguez's trial. He received hate mail from her fans for weeks.
Besides that disappointing sex tape, Paris has made no contributions to society whatsoever and I really hope that Ah-nold takes that into consideration and laughs in her face when her lawyers ask for that pardon.
It was interesting to see celebrity reaction on Entertainment Tonight last night. Jason Priestley, who himself got busted on a DUI (DUIs?), said he didn't even JAYWALK because he didn't want to be in violation of ANYTHING.
I don't feel sorry for her. In fact, I can't wait to see what other unfortunate stuff will happen to her!
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05-09-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I think people don't differentiate between degrees of driving while intoxicated.
They think of the worse things that have happened and suddenly anyone at the limit is a murderer. Regardless of how they are driving.
Thats not rational. Thats an emotive argument and can't be argued against.
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This is not true when it comes to legality, at least in IL where I'm familiar with the DUI laws (probably the same other places as well). IL recognizes 4 levels of DUIs, Level I - Low Risk, Level II - Moderate Risk, Level II - Significant risk, and Level III - High Risk (a 2nd DUI automatically places you in this category, no questions asked). Your "rehab" is determined by your level of risk. Your level is determined by a licensed DUI counselor. There are two Level II categories to give the counselors some leeway/options. There's got to be a similar system in California.
Oh, and NEVER if you are pulled over refuse the breathalyzer test. The most fancy-pants lawyer will NOT get you around a DIU because there was no BAC recorded.
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05-09-2007, 09:09 AM
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This is not true when it comes to legality, at least in IL where I'm familiar with the DUI laws (probably the same other places as well). IL recognizes 4 levels of DUIs, Level I - Low Risk, Level II - Moderate Risk, Level II - Significant risk, and Level III - High Risk (a 2nd DUI automatically places you in this category, no questions asked). Your "rehab" is determined by your level of risk. Your level is determined by a licensed DUI counselor. There are two Level II categories to give the counselors some leeway/options. There's got to be a similar system in California.
Oh, and NEVER if you are pulled over refuse the breathalyzer test. The most fancy-pants lawyer will NOT get you around a DIU because there was no BAC recorded.
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Actually this depends, or so I've been told by my attorney. Maybe Texas is different than Illinois.
I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.
.....and if you are well connected and have a good attorney....you can get out of a DUI/DWI. Don't be silly.
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05-09-2007, 10:56 AM
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I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.
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Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....
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05-09-2007, 10:58 AM
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Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....
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That sounds like a "Let me see your radar gun" type move, and something that would just piss most police off.
And apparently, you can't get out of all DUIs, or Paris wouldn't be heading up the river.
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05-09-2007, 08:34 PM
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Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....
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Not necessarily the best strategy - your BAC could also go up since you have had a chance to get more alcohol into your system depending on when you stopped drinking before you got behind the wheel.
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05-09-2007, 08:55 PM
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The best strategy is to not drink and drive.
I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.
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05-10-2007, 07:30 AM
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The best strategy is to not drink and drive.
I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.
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But...to quote one of the guys who went through my mom's office for treatment:
"What's the fun in drinking if you're not going to play 'which headlights are the real ones'?"
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05-10-2007, 10:59 AM
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The best strategy is to not drink and drive.
I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.
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Exactly - as someone who was just hit and seriously injured by a drunk driver in the last 10 days, I'm amazed people don't think before they get into a car and drive.
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05-18-2007, 05:23 PM
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I have no sympathy for her. Don't give me the "I didn't know my license was suspended bullshit". When you get your license pulled, you know it! Hell, you are probably counting the days till it is reinstated!
I know this might show my age a little, but she kinda reminds me of "Queen of Mean" Leona Helmsley. "Only Little People Pay taxes" Except she is like, "Only little people go to jail"  Good ol' Leona went right to the slammer and I hope Paris does too
Suck it up heffa! Take it like a woman, put on your big girl panties and deal with it!
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05-09-2007, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Actually this depends, or so I've been told by my attorney. Maybe Texas is different than Illinois.
I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.
.....and if you are well connected and have a good attorney....you can get out of a DUI/DWI. Don't be silly.
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It's different all over. A breathalizer refusal in Oklahoma will result in a one-year automatic suspension of your driver's license.
Some departments are now equipping these sensors which attack to the top of the cop's little clipboard thing which can get a measure your BAC from a pretty good distance. The cop just leans in a little when he's asking for your information and he's got your BAC.
They don't need your consent for that -- it's not a search because you have no expectation of privacy as to your breath. Neat, eh?
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05-09-2007, 12:55 PM
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Did you see on the petition one of the reasons to pardon her is that she brings "beauty and excitement to otherwise mundane lives?" Gag.
There are some other petitions out there too - to give her a life sentence.
Paris needs to go away. Really. Does she even have one redeeming quality?
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05-09-2007, 01:21 PM
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Paris needs to go away. Really. Does she even have one redeeming quality?
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I seriously just sat and thought about that for like a minute straight. I cannot come up with anything. Now that's sad.
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