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05-07-2007, 09:32 PM
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i've just started reading the book, and i've gotten to October so far. the thing that bothers me most about everything in the book is the fact that they way she writes it, it seems like the things that happen (like pre-gaming) only happen with Greeks. What? Non-Greeks don't pregame? Non-Greeks don't strive to be thin and perfect and have the perfect girlfriends? Non-Greeks don't sneak boys/girls into their dorms/apartments, etc.? It really makes me angry. And the fact that parents think these are accurate descriptions is even worse.
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Goes back to the fact that the girl isn't a journalist...she's an opportunist. I'm not buying that she had this burning passion to find out about greek life for the good of the world...she sat down and found something likely to give her sensational stories that she could mass market and viola. I'd give it to her for being a good money maker if she didn't try to act like this is a serious piece of work.
Here's the thing...I have no doubt the stuff she writes about goes on. But I do know that honest to effin' god I've never seen massive eating disorders (and this is going for all five NPCs and the three NPHCs), there is no drug room, no one gets hazed, and being a slut isn't glorified by anyone, much less the girls. A real journalist would have done the actual research. This isn't the only campus that's so calm...I know mass vomiting and whoring out make interesting stories, but it doesn't represent the whole. Fact. And I am TIRED of defending the greeks here because she chose NOT to balance herself (because inserting the random sentence saying "Well not EVERYONE does this" does not equal balance).
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05-07-2007, 11:21 PM
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My sisters and I love that movie! We know it's extremely stereotypical and wrong in many ways, but there are also some pretty funny parts, too.
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co-sign : its horribly off but i got a good laugh out of this movie too.
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Do you know people? Have you interacted with them? Because this is pretty standard no-brainer stuff. -33girl
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05-28-2007, 03:56 AM
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Goes back to the fact that the girl isn't a journalist...she's an opportunist. I'm not buying that she had this burning passion to find out about greek life for the good of the world...she sat down and found something likely to give her sensational stories that she could mass market and viola.
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I agree with you.
When I read this book it hurt me, not as a sorority girl, but as a journalism major. I spent most of the time angry at her not because she was giving away "secrets" or calling sorority girls sluts, but because in doing this she was giving up all claim of being a journalist. The first thing they told me in Writing for the Media was that exposes are good, and it's up to us (Journalists) to expose the truth, but that we had to respect our subjects and that no one would ever be willing to give us an interview if we had the reputation of slandering or mocking them. This is just what she does, and I feel bad for the girls she followed, because they are the only ones who really should be hurt by this.
People who take this book as the honest and complete truth are usually people who wanted to think bad things about Greeks in the first place. The movie will prbably be the same.... though one of my sisters won't go to pancake feeds anymore because of this book
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05-28-2007, 11:59 AM
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I agree with you.
When I read this book it hurt me, not as a sorority girl, but as a journalism major. I spent most of the time angry at her not because she was giving away "secrets" or calling sorority girls sluts, but because in doing this she was giving up all claim of being a journalist. The first thing they told me in Writing for the Media was that exposes are good, and it's up to us (Journalists) to expose the truth, but that we had to respect our subjects and that no one would ever be willing to give us an interview if we had the reputation of slandering or mocking them. This is just what she does, and I feel bad for the girls she followed, because they are the only ones who really should be hurt by this.
People who take this book as the honest and complete truth are usually people who wanted to think bad things about Greeks in the first place. The movie will prbably be the same.... though one of my sisters won't go to pancake feeds anymore because of this book
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Well said. I do think it reflects badly on honest journalists out there because they DO exist. She's just not one of them. Honestly I don't have a problem with people making money off a subject (as long as they aren't guilty of slandering their subjects...and as far as we know, she isn't) and writing something that is, to anyone with any first hand experience, very biased and very sensationalized. Props to them for making more money than I ever will. BUT I firmly believe that if you decide to claim your account is 100% truthful or 100% unbiased...and you claim that it is JOURNALISM then it should be. I wouldn't be disgusted with her at all if she had been honest...and published the book as what it is: sensationalism.
And of course, the cute wrap up with "advice" to people who have been doing this their whole lives was amusing. There is a place in the world for outside advice...every organization needs it. BUT it should be better researched than hers was. There were about a million problems with her overly simplistic "solutions"...and why she thinks that she is the first person to come up with them I can't imagine. She could have left all of that out.
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07-20-2007, 11:03 PM
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"Here's the thing...I have no doubt the stuff she writes about goes on. But I do know that honest to effin' god I've never seen massive eating disorders (and this is going for all five NPCs and the three NPHCs), there is no drug room, no one gets hazed, and being a slut isn't glorified by anyone, much less the girls. "
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I'm neither pro or con "Pledged". I enjoyed reading it, but I'm far enough removed from my sorority days that I can sit back and take much of it with a grain of salt. I wasn't at all offended by it, as I knew that much of it happened in one of the campus houses if it didn't in ours.
My dear sister, I saw the Eating Disorders. Not just in my house, but in other houses and with non-Greeks. Keep in mind, Eating Disorders don't involve only starving or vomiting. Yes, we had those. But ED sufferers take laxitives, diet pills, and diuretics, they also "chew and spit". They can be compulsive exercisers, too, which was my Eating Disorder. In my house, we had every eating disorder that I have ever researched.
As far as I know, there wasn't much drug use (what I saw was very limited), but there was lots of alcohol abuse. Grain alcohol parties were the norm on Friday nights. And, we did have our share of sluts. I remember one sister that every Saturday morning would wake up with one of two things in bed with her: either a guy who she didn't remember from the TG or a Pizzathat she had no recollection of ordering.
The most hazing I saw in our house were the pre-arranged raids by a friendly Fraternity -- no biggie.
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