The Term African American

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Are you saying that it is assinine to believe that being black is cool?

Hmmm...well I think black is not only cool but beautiful. But I believe (and I imagine Sista agrees with me) it is assinine for nonblacks to think it is okay to form a caricature and make black something that is cool in certain settings, as long as they don't have to understand and experience what black truly is.

This isn't a point of debate because I will not be shocked nor upset if you don't understand or agree. Black is just a race to you and that's fine.

Jesus....no I didn't say that. It came across to me like she was saying it was cool to act black because that is how you are allowed more fun and are able to be accepted by those that are "real, hip and trendsetting." Then she had to add that those said people are black. Sorry, I just don't believe that blacks are the only trendsetting, real people out there.

If I misunderstood what she was saying then by all means, enlighten me.....

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

If she actually believes that black people are the real, hip and trendsetting people and that we should "act black" to be accepted by said black people.......

I didn't gather that from her post.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I didn't gather that from her post.

I did

Being black will allow you more fun and the acceptance by the people who are real, hip and trend setting, those people being, black people.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Jesus....no I didn't say that. It came across to me like she was saying it was cool to act black because that is how you are allowed more fun and are able to be accepted by those that are "real, hip and trendsetting." Then she had to add that those said people are black. Sorry, I just don't believe that blacks are the only trendsetting, real people out there.

If I misunderstood what she was saying then by all means, enlighten me.....

Well, SHE might believe that blacks are the "real, hip and trendsetting" people. I don't know if she was just stating what others believe or what she believes.

It is true that in certain settings it is the black people who are the hip, trendsetters or ASSUMED to be. Those settings include society's take on sports, certain music and dance forms, certain phrases, and certain styles of dress that have become accepted. These are the hip and trendy aspects of what many people think of when you say "black people." Many people certainly don't think of business (unless they saw some magazine cover with hip hop moguls, etc.) and academics (unless they remember some "smart black person" they've read about) because they have a limited exposure to these aspects of "black people."

None of what I typed should be confused with blacks being THE real, hip trendsetters of Western civilization. So instead of being stuck on that rather minute part of Sista's post, you should focus on her overall message.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I did

Again, she could've been typing as the voice of the people who believe that or expressing her opinion. She has yet to clarify.

The point remains that those who DO think being black means we have some insight on things like rhythm and effortlessly finding cool Air Force Ones, will undoubtedly come to us if they want to know about rhythm and Air Force Ones. In coming to us, they will attempt to prove to us that they are "cool" and can relate to us.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Yeah, I absolutely believe people do it. DSTCHAOS just asked if I thought that what she said was asinine. If she actually believes that black people are the real, hip and trendsetting people and that we should "act black" to be accepted by said black people.......then yeah.....I think that is a pretty ridiculous belief.

Hm. I didn't get that from what she wrote, but going back and reading it again, I suppose it could be taken that way.

I got that she felt that black people should not accept nonblack people who try to "act black" in order to try to get in with black people who they perceive as being real, hip, and trendsetting. I could be wrong about this interpretation ... Sista?

[Sista]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Are you talking about the whole "acting black" and "talking black" thing?

Acting black, what exactly is that?

While you are at it, tell me what is acting White?

By the way, do you also know what it is to be acting Asian?

Please, by all means enlighten us.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Every group of people has cultural markers and identifiers that both insiders and outsiders know of. This doesn't mean that every member of that group has to display these markers and identifiers, since there is some variation across social classes. The problem is when it becomes a negative and something to be mocked.

I didn't get what you just said, what exactly is your point?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I have a level of comfort when I'm around people of the African diaspora. But I don't use my comfort as an excuse to pretend I don't know the English language or am an ignorant person. I used to use my comfort as such an excuse when I was young because I didn't understand the intellectual and cultural roots of "blackness."

Are you saying that acting black is equal to ignorance, not knowing or not properly speaking the English language?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That said, I'm annoyed by ANYONE who approaches me and dumbs down or acts what they think is "ghetto" just because I'm black. That includes black people, white people, Asian people, Hispanic people, and so forth. If you can't speak a coherent sentence, talk about something other than "black things," and act like you have some sense and home training around me just because I'm black--keep it moving.

Oh I can see for my self now, you do think acting black is ignorance, all right, gotcha

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I identify with the struggles and triumphs of people of the African diaspora and the black culture. I don't identify with Africa as a continent nor do I want to. I'm not African and don't feel loyalty to Africa.

Who said anything about loyalty? I think you have some kind of issue with African people as well as African American people and black people period. Where are you from, who are you? Or do you even know your self?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's fine if you do as long as you don't think that all black people in America have to.

Did I ask you your opinion? Did I ask you if it is okay for me to identify and have loyalty to Africa?

Who made you the master of what is okay and what is not?

Who are you supposed to be?

I am rather annoyed with you and I get the impression you only responded to my post in order so that you could make it known that you are not your brothers keeper.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by macallan25

*bangs head against wall*

What are you, some type of Neanderthal

[laylo]

Originally Posted by Sista

I am rather annoyed with you and I get the impression you only responded to my post in order so that you could make it known that you are not your brothers keeper.

I think you might have missed her use of quotes.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Sista

Acting black, what exactly is that?

While you are at it, tell me what is acting White?

By the way, do you also know what it is to be acting Asian?

Please, by all means enlighten us.

You need to calm down psycho. Your post could have easily been interpreted as talking about people "acting black". How you don't know what that means is kind of beyond me.

Watch MTV.........white people on their love to act black.

A White kid decked out in FUBU, Sean John, and Phat Farm with a white doorag, Timbalands, and a half sideways flat billed baseball cap, whom only listens to screwed and chopped freestyle rap, sips Crunk Juice and tries to talk like TI = "Acting Black"

[Sista]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Again, she could've been typing as the voice of the people who believe that or expressing her opinion. She has yet to clarify.

The point remains that those who DO think being black means we have some insight on things like rhythm and effortlessly finding cool Air Force Ones, will undoubtedly come to us if they want to know about rhythm and Air Force Ones. In coming to us, they will attempt to prove to us that they are "cool" and can relate to us.

I am so glad that there are actually some critical thinkers in this forum. Thank you for breaking down what my post was really all about.

You are right, I was not speaking from my voice, I was speaking as the voice of the people who actually believe that black people are this, or black people are that, or black people are better at this and terrible at that. What ever it is they feel that they lack which will make them more of a real person, they feel as though having someone black around them will fulfill what they lack. It is another form of slavery, yet it is very subtle and believe it or not, some black people cheerfully take these roles in which they rescue or save non black people from their boring lives. You can see this happening in the rapp music industry if you look very closely.


I was at the gym the other day and I met this Latino girl, she was telling me about this dude she had just broken up with and how immediately after their break up, he got married to some other woman. She then began telling me about how good he was in bed and how she is so angry with him for doing her like he did her after she had been with him for 5 years. Finally, she says to me he was African American. The first thing that went through my head was, "Oh shyt, this woman wants me to console her and help her to figure out why this black man did this to her" After all, I am a black woman so I would surely know right? She then went on to tell me that the brotha' married a black woman and at times through out the conversation she referred to that woman as a bytch. She later stated to me that she only wants a black man that she couldn't even imagine a penis not black going up in her. I led her on even more so in order to get her more comfortable with being who she really is, that being a exploiter of black men. Then I wounded up showing her some pictures of my African male friends who come straight from the mother land. She was telling me how fine and black they were and she had concluded that she was interested in an African from the continent, that from looking at their pictures, she thinks she would be more so attracted to them. She even asked me to hook her up.

If you are all wondering, I did ask her why didn't she like Latino men and her answer was, get this "They have small dycks and they are not fun"

Does this woman not know what she was doing and basically saying? Did she actually think I as a black woman took all she said as a comment to black men?

[DSTCHAOS]

Ooookay, so Sista is a complete idiot and needs to go to the lunatic farm.

Moving on...this was a good discussion.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by macallan25

You need to calm down psycho. Your post could have easily been interpreted as talking about people "acting black". How you don't know what that means is kind of beyond me.

Psycho? Well look what we have hear, the perfect gentleman


In your original post, you asked me a question which was, "are you talking about acting black?" Before I could answer your question, you proceeded on to answer it for me.


Conclusion: Only guilty people tend to accuse people of what they themselves really are but would rather keep it a secret. You accused me of being a psycho. Only a Psycho would pose a question verbally or in text and the then answer his own question shortly after.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Sista

I am so glad that there are actually some critical thinkers in this forum. Thank you for breaking down what my post was really all about.

You are right, I was not speaking from my voice, I was speaking as the voice of the people who actually believe that black people are this, or black people are that, or black people are better at this and terrible at that. What ever it is they feel that they lack which will make them more of a real person, they feel as though having someone black around them will fulfill what they lack. It is another form of slavery, yet it is very subtle and believe it or not, some black people cheerfully take these roles in which they rescue or save non black people from their boring lives. You can see this happening in the rapp music industry if you look very closely.


I was at the gym the other day and I met this Latino girl, she was telling me about this dude she had just broken up with and how immediately after their break up, he got married to some other woman. She then began telling me about how good he was in bed and how she is so angry with him for doing her like he did her after she had been with him for 5 years. Finally, she says to me he was African American. The first thing that went through my head was, "Oh shyt, this woman wants me to console her and help her to figure out why this black man did this to her" After all, I am a black woman so I would surely know right? She then went on to tell me that the brotha' married a black woman and at times through out the conversation she referred to that woman as a bytch. She later stated to me that she only wants a black man that she couldn't even imagine a penis not black going up in her. I led her on even more so in order to get her more comfortable with being who she really is, that being a exploiter of black men. Then I wounded up showing her some pictures of my African male friends who come straight from the mother land. She was telling me how fine and black they were and she had concluded that she was interested in an African from the continent, that from looking at their pictures, she thinks she would be more so attracted to them. She even asked me to hook her up.

If you are all wondering, I did ask her why didn't she like Latino men and her answer was, get this "They have small dycks and they are not fun"

Does this woman not know what she was doing and basically saying? Did she actually think I as a black woman took all she said as a comment to black men?

Shut up, idiot.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Sista

Conclusion: Only guilty people tend to accuse people of what they themselves really are but would rather keep it a secret. You accused me of being a psycho. Only a Psycho would pose a question verbally or in text and the then answer his own question shortly after.

Either you really are a psycho or just play one when you post on Greekchat.