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03-29-2007, 05:23 PM
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Just read the legal complaint, and a written contract between Delta Zeta and DePauw does exist called the Greek Standards Initiative.
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03-29-2007, 05:25 PM
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a written contract between Delta Zeta and DePauw does exist called the Greek Standards Initiative.
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Linky pleeez?
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03-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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Greek Standards Initiative: DePauw University & DePauw Greek Community
Not sure if it will work. The "pdf" link didn't work, but the "view as HTML" did.
ETA: It looks like DePauw has taken it down from their website. Which is why you can't get the "pdf" file but the "HTML" one. I wonder why they would do that? Hmmm.
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03-29-2007, 10:07 PM
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I don't have a website link for the Legal Complaint. It was sent to me as a scanned pdf file.
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03-29-2007, 10:09 PM
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I don't have a website link for the Legal Complaint. It was sent to me as a scanned pdf file.
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Aah. I have been trying to find it and was wondering how you got your hands on it.
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03-29-2007, 10:12 PM
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In your opinion, is this the type of case that might be tried before a jury? Or do you feel it will more likely be tried before a judge.
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Here is another question to throw out: What would be more beneficial if it was tried before a judge or a jury the question still applies: One that was pro Greek life, or one that was anti? How about a recent college grad that went through recruitment and never got a bid? One whose top choice was DZ and they cut her? Or a pro-Greek life person, would they be more likely to side with DZ? (from what I'm seeing on here I'm guessing no, but I'm just wondering).
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03-29-2007, 11:57 PM
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I don't have a website link for the Legal Complaint. It was sent to me as a scanned pdf file.
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Any chance you can share? I'd be willing to host it online.
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03-30-2007, 01:10 AM
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Couldn't these types of legal wranglings cost lots of money? How much is DZ willing to drain their resources to make a case they might lose? Perhaps all DZ wants is a big ol' "I'm sorry" from Depauw and they felt this was the way to do it.
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03-30-2007, 01:24 AM
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I just read this from the USA Today interview with their president:
Did your decisions have to do with physical appearance?
A: These women are proud of who they are, but this campus created an image of Delta Zetas that was unfair, and in that environment our women could not be successful. Never ever would we want that (message) conveyed.
I read her answer as: YES it did, but only because the mean old Depauw campus environment made us. After all, we want to be successful and this is how we will be successful.
Good grief!
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03-30-2007, 02:10 AM
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I just read this from the USA Today interview with their president:
Did your decisions have to do with physical appearance?
A: These women are proud of who they are, but this campus created an image of Delta Zetas that was unfair, and in that environment our women could not be successful. Never ever would we want that (message) conveyed.
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it's unfair that the girls in that chapter didn't conform to the campus wide standard and so they couldn't be successful? of course! let's make it so that they DO conform and then all our problems will go away. so essentially, yes.
you really have to wonder what they're thinking...they're not making this ANY easier on themselves. whoever is advising them on what to say, etc should be fired asap.
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03-30-2007, 08:29 AM
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I just read this from the USA Today interview with their president:
Did your decisions have to do with physical appearance?
A: These women are proud of who they are, but this campus created an image of Delta Zetas that was unfair, and in that environment our women could not be successful. Never ever would we want that (message) conveyed.
I read her answer as: YES it did, but only because the mean old Depauw campus environment made us. After all, we want to be successful and this is how we will be successful.
Good grief!
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That is how it sounded to me too... and that is why a lot of people will not be rallying behind DZ on this one.
"ooooooh poor me! we were forced to do unnatural things because of the big bad depauw campus!!!"
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03-29-2007, 06:25 PM
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Just read the legal complaint, and a written contract between Delta Zeta and DePauw does exist called the Greek Standards Initiative.
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Where did you find the complaint?
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03-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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Just read the legal complaint, and a written contract between Delta Zeta and DePauw does exist called the Greek Standards Initiative.
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I just looked over the initiative, and without knowing the minute details of what occured (we are really only given the "broad" picture), I'm sure the university has reason, within the initiative, for kicking them off campus. We don't know if the chapter was turning in their reports on time, or if they were recruiting correctly, etc... (as the initiative suggests).
I'm sure if this lawsuit see's the light of a courthouse/judge, both sides will present the initiative. DePauw will point out the errors DZ made and DZ will point out the errors DePauw made. It really depends on A) who made more errors and B) who makes a stronger case for the errors.
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03-30-2007, 09:12 AM
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Just read the legal complaint, and a written contract between Delta Zeta and DePauw does exist called the Greek Standards Initiative.
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Just read through the Greek Standards Initiative. I don't think it can be called a "contract." Anything where the purpose is described this way -- "the Greek Standards Initiative should serve as a resource document inthe spirit of self-betterment" -- and where we see "expectations" rather than "obligations" fails to meet the definition of a contract, in my opinion.
In any case, I didn't see anything in it one way or the other about withdrawal of University recognition -- just "expectations" with regard to GLOs that are recognized by the University.
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