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03-29-2007, 01:03 AM
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This lawsuit business makes me want to bang my head against the wall. I may be overreacting, but I'm estimating it's going to be close to a decade for DZ to recover from this.
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If they are serious about this lawsuit, by the time they are done with it and stuff...I don't think your overreacting at all.
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I wonder if we will see a decline in rushers overall because girls will get a bad taste of NPC orgs from the DePauw incident and from all of the media coverage... I hope not.
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That's what NPC should be afraid of right now. I think every sorority will have to have a way to answer questions about this during recruitment for the next couple of semesters for sure.
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03-29-2007, 01:10 AM
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That's what NPC should be afraid of right now. I think every sorority will have to have a way to answer questions about this during recruitment for the next couple of semesters for sure.
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I don't know, it's not as far-reaching as some might think. As a current collegian at a school with a chapter of Delta Zeta, I have seen no effect from this story whatsoever. It's almost as though no one heard about it, which is surprising, but I think there are going to be plenty of schools and chapters of DZ (and other sororities) completely unaware and uneffected by this whole ordeal.
Though if this lawsuit business is largely publicized I can see it being an issue during formal recruitment in the fall.
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03-29-2007, 01:40 AM
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Wow, this is the story that just will not die. If this is the "right" course of action for DZ nationals, I don't know. However, what I am absolutely sure of is this... for however long this drags out, the headlines will read as follows:
Discriminatory Sorority files lawsuit.
Racist Sorority fights back.
Sorority on kicking out minorities and fat girls: "It's our right".
Total PR disaster. Their position, to the public, is indefensible. They should release a mea culpa, or crawl into a hole and hope the world forgets about this little snafu.
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03-29-2007, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFratBoyNews
Wow, this is the story that just will not die. If this is the "right" course of action for DZ nationals, I don't know. However, what I am absolutely sure of is this... for however long this drags out, the headlines will read as follows:
Discriminatory Sorority files lawsuit.
Racist Sorority fights back.
Sorority on kicking out minorities and fat girls: "It's our right".
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well it's not quite at that point yet, but the headline on yahoo does read "controversial sorority sues university over eviction"
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03-29-2007, 02:12 AM
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Why don't they just let this die?!
It seems to me that DePauw should have the right to choose what organizations they have official ties with, especially as a private institution. I doubt they wanted the media sh*tstorm that surrounded this whole thing, and entirely kicking DZ off campus was the easiest way to get rid of it.
Seriously, DZ's HQ needs to realize DePauw doesn't want them and GET OVER IT. Move on, try to let the whole thing blow over.
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03-29-2007, 07:51 AM
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I don't know, it's not as far-reaching as some might think. As a current collegian at a school with a chapter of Delta Zeta, I have seen no effect from this story whatsoever. It's almost as though no one heard about it, which is surprising, but I think there are going to be plenty of schools and chapters of DZ (and other sororities) completely unaware and uneffected by this whole ordeal.
Though if this lawsuit business is largely publicized I can see it being an issue during formal recruitment in the fall.
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Right now there might be no effect, but I think during formal recruitment in the fall, the DZ chapter should be ready to answer questions like "Is this going to happen to me?" type things.
If DZ just let this die and didn't bring the lawsuit, it is possible that chapters wouldn't have been affected...but it seems that DZ just wants to stretch this out and make it even worse then it already is.
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03-29-2007, 08:24 AM
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Oh man. Saw this news on another site and had to come over here to see what everyone was saying.
I don't see how this can possibly help DZ IHQ, and it's the members (their own - and all of the other NPC's too, because you know most people don't know DZ from any other sorority) who are going to suffer.
What's the chances of the case being a) thrown out or b) settled out of court? DePauw may not want to fight, but they hold what looks to most people like the high moral ground here, so they might be willing to stick it out.
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03-29-2007, 08:30 AM
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While it is a PR disaster, from a legal perspective, it might not be. Until we know exactly what is in the suit - and what relevant Indiana law is - there's no way to know whether or not the suit will succeed. And hey - it even depends on the judge. A good lawyer knows the law - a great lawyer knows the judge. No telling how this will play out - JMHO.
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03-31-2007, 10:02 PM
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Its stories like this that make me realize my decision not to join a NPC was a good one.
Whatever happened to sisterhood?
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03-31-2007, 10:36 PM
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Its stories like this that make me realize my decision not to join a NPC was a good one.
Whatever happened to sisterhood?
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Wow, if that's not a blanket statement, then I don't know what is. Of course, I could turn around and make a comment about YOUR organization and your how many chapters -- but that wouldn't be fair, would it?
It's unfair to slap the "no sisterhood" label on DZ (and the 25 other NPC sororities) based on the actions of a few women at HQ.
So until you can prove that there's no sisterhood in our NPC sororities, I'd keep comments like that to yourself, THX.
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03-31-2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW
Wow, if that's not a blanket statement, then I don't know what is. Of course, I could turn around and make a comment about YOUR organization and your how many chapters -- but that wouldn't be fair, would it?
It's unfair to slap the "no sisterhood" label on DZ (and the 25 other NPC sororities) based on the actions of a few women at HQ.
So until you can prove that there's no sisterhood in our NPC sororities, I'd keep comments like that to yourself, THX.
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My bad...I didn't mean to offend you. Its just from MY personal experience with NPC's going through formal rush my freshman year, that was the impression I got, but you're right I shouldn't make a blanket statement like that, I'm sure not ALL chapters of NPCs operate like this, and I'm sure you have sisterhood amongst eachother, the sisterhood comment was not directed at all NPCs, just at the Depauw situation.
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03-29-2007, 08:31 AM
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http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...703290488/1196
Based on this article, it says that the case was filed in US District Court in Terre Haute.
At this point, I'm surprised DZ didn't just let it rest. It had finally dropped off the news radar, but then last night it was back on the evening news and back in the Indianapolis Paper this morning. I'm not sure if this will hurt DZ nationally, but just from speaking with my friends here in Indy-- it's not helping them in Indiana.
Also, as soon as I heard this on the news last night, all I could think of was "I wonder what Greek Chat has to say about this". I wasn't dissapointed!
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03-29-2007, 09:18 AM
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Thanks for the link, ForeverRoses. The possible suit by the former members is interesting - I guess if DZ can claim the University ruined its reputation, it only makes sense that the former (or alumnae?) members could claim the same of DZ. Of course, the DZ suit seems to be from a purely business perspective - sigh. Someone tell me when it's over!
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