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Old 03-08-2007, 12:38 AM
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I just need for people to stop trying to pimp the system. Abortions are not 100% effective! So instead of being angry at the drs maybe she should be made at herself for having no self control in the area of sex!! This angers me because there is much more to this abortion issue than she is even thinking of.
again, lets stop being naive here. ppl are going to have sex. ppl are going to make bad choices in who/when/why/how they have sex. sex is weird, ish happens you know? so instead of blaming a woman for the right to choose to have sex with who/when/why and how and blaming her for the choices she made after that...

that's like telling someone who gets hit by a drunk driver "well maybe if you werent on the road late at night where you KNOW people may be drunkdriving, this may not have happened." are you gonna blame the victim for having no self-control in the desire/need to drive? or are you going to poin the finger at the person who ACTUALLY did wrong?

the failed abortion was NOT this woman's fault. not one but TWO doctors screwed up. not only was the procedure done wrong, but it wasn't even noticed by the next doctor!

let's not even get into the issue of pre-natal care: lots of women are inaccessible to such and given that this women got an abortion (or tried to) at a Planned Parenthood and her reasoning being "financial reasons," i cant imagine her access to proper pre-natal care (ie a trusted doctor she could continuously visit that would track her pregnancy and know her needs) was all that great.

p.s. anyone having a tongue-in-cheek moment about the woman's last name?
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:52 AM
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p.s. anyone having a tongue-in-cheek moment about the woman's last name?
HAHAHA, well, I wasn't gonna say anything........
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:15 AM
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OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?

She could sue off the sheer fact of medical malpractice. I am too tired to read the article and add'l facts tonight, so I'll reserve comment on her suing for the cost of raising a child, etc.
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:33 AM
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OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?
It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS
wow I never thought of that Soror...hummmm...
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:10 PM
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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS
Yeah it would be! Wow... that's some serious 'survival of the fittest'!
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:53 PM
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[QUOTE=RedefinedDiva;1409831]OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it? [QUOTE]

Depending on the type of abortion she had, tissue could have been removed that was not actually part of the fetus. Most of what is removed in a surgical abortion is not actually the fetus. So the child could be perfectly normal.
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:24 PM
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[QUOTE=blackngoldengrl;1410465][QUOTE=RedefinedDiva;1409831]OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?
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Depending on the type of abortion she had, tissue could have been removed that was not actually part of the fetus. Most of what is removed in a surgical abortion is not actually the fetus. So the child could be perfectly normal.
So is what is removed only done to allow the fetus to be eventually expelled from the body? I thought this was the case of the old technology of a D&C, not the current technology of a surgical abortion.
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:01 AM
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OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?
So is what is removed only done to allow the fetus to be eventually expelled from the body? I thought this was the case of the old technology of a D&C, not the current technology of a surgical abortion.
I wasn't as clear as I should have been. The idea is to remove everything, the fetus* and the additional tissue. I was saying that in this case where the abortion failed, what was removed was not any part of the fetus, but rather the supportive tissue.

In general when a surgical abortion is performed, most of what is there is not the fetus, but the supportive tissue. Meaning that the tissue makes up a greater percentage of what is actually removed, since the fetus is still so small at this point.

*depending on gestational age, could be embryo
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:50 AM
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I wasn't as clear as I should have been. The idea is to remove everything, the fetus* and the additional tissue. I was saying that in this case where the abortion failed, what was removed was not any part of the fetus, but rather the supportive tissue.

In general when a surgical abortion is performed, most of what is there is not the fetus, but the supportive tissue. Meaning that the tissue makes up a greater percentage of what is actually removed, since the fetus is still so small at this point.

*depending on gestational age, could be embryo
While I don't doubt what you're saying, as I have never been nor do I have interest in getting pregnant or having an abortion at any point in the past or present, nor do I have a strong scientifc background, but I cannot understand how "supportive tissue" can be removed and a child survive.
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