Extended School Hours

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by FeeFee

Agreed.

Not only were teachers allowed to discipline the students, the parents actually teamed up with the teachers. Some 25 + years ago when I was in elementary and middle school, if one of my teachers called my house, my mother did not hesitate to deal with me. Nowadays, you have parents who want to fight the teachers and administrators. WTH?????

I had a parent try to clown me for writing up her daughter who skipped my class. The mother had the audicity to defend the students actions and say I didn't know what I was doing. I stepped in to the hall with her and asked her where she worked so I could tel her is she was doing her job 'right'.....yet, she is unemployed and defends her daughter who fights at least once a week.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

and defends her daughter who fights at least once a week.

Sadly, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

I had a parent try to clown me for writing up her daughter who skipped my class. The mother had the audicity to defend the students actions and say I didn't know what I was doing. I stepped in to the hall with her and asked her where she worked so I could tel her is she was doing her job 'right'.....yet, she is unemployed and defends her daughter who fights at least once a week.

A friend of mine who is a teacher JUST told me about how he went through this exact same scenario last week. He wrote the kid up because he was disturbing the class and his mom came up to the school yelling and clowning at him - instead of asking her son why was he acting up in the class. Priorities

Honestly, I would support an extended school day IF it meant bringing back recess (with a morning and afternoon break), smaller classes (so the teacher could teach in a more intimate learning environment), and effective discipline methods were re-introduced into the school system.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Honestly, I would support an extended school day IF it meant bringing back recess (with a morning and afternoon break), smaller classes (so the teacher could teach in a more intimate learning environment), and effective discipline methods were re-introduced into the school system.

Areas of Concern:
Smaller classes: NCLB and acquiring 'highly qualified' personnel. Prior to this legislation, there was a teacher shortage. Plus, NCLB allows for most students, even those with the most severe disabilities to become part of the general population, thus increasing the PTR.

Effective Discipline Re-introduced: Again, NCLB, IDEIA, and other legal guidelines have administrators and teachers' hands tied. "Effective discipline" as we knew it, won't be re-introduced. Unless, districts require their school-based personnel to keep record, track (documentation) of student's behaviors, districts will be at a disadvantage and what we once knew stays out the window.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Effective Discipline Re-introduced: Again, NCLB, IDEIA, and other legal guidelines have administrators and teachers' hands tied. "Effective discipline" as we knew it, won't be re-introduced. Unless, districts require their school-based personnel to keep record, track (documentation) of student's behaviors, districts will be at a disadvantage and what we once knew stays out the window.

You know what I don't understand though? In my local district, they (the school resource officer bka the school police officer) carry tasers and USE them on students - but yet, discipline methods that we grew up with (ie paddling, making a student stand up in class or in the hallway for being a disruption, in school suspension) are considered "embarrasement" or ineffective.

Apparently giving students mini-electrocutions are a good alternative here.