2 Black NFL Head Coaches to Superbowl XLI!!!

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Tom,
I don't assume any negative intent in your comment, and I hope you will take this in the spirit in which it is sent, but I do have to say, that yes, it's a BIG DEAL to millions of Americans of color, (African Americans and others, and I would hope, as well to White Americans) and it is worth it to concentrate on "the people" as well as the event.

Our history in America makes it so. Generations before us have grown up in an America that routinely told them that they were were not good enough, not strong enough, not smart enough to be leaders, to rise to the top and to do anything that would be "valued" in America. Our ancestors knew it wasn't true and persisted in advancing and teaching those who would come behind them the fundamental lesson that "hard work, despite the obstacles you face, leads somewhere...."

And so for not one, but two sons of the African Diaspora, to lead their teams to the the biggest event in sports and one of the largest in American society (the Superbowl is annually the most watched event in the nation), yes, it does mean a great deal.

TonyB06, that was not the intent as some want to make a big deal about on site.

It is my feeling that both of these gentlemen would prefer the spot light not be on them, but on the players and the game.

Do they desearve it, YES. Did they earn it, YES!

The coach I admire the most is Eddie Robinson of Grambling who did not get the recognition that He so richly desearved.

Oh, for those who do not know, he was happy at what he was doing and where he was with the school, his team, and its athletes.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Do they desearve it, YES. Did they earn it, YES!

Does celebrating FIRSTS mean that the people don't deserve it, didn't earn it, and mean we can't enjoy the Superbowl as we normally would? No.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Does celebrating FIRSTS mean that the people don't deserve it, didn't earn it, and mean we can't enjoy the Superbowl as we normally would? No.

I never said they did not desearve it!

I just said they probably rather be out of the lime light and be know for Coaches as opposed to being the first Black Coahes in the Super Bowl.

Should we as semi football fanatics enjoy the game, I guess so!

It is not the coaches who make the difference, it is the big SOBs on the field who do!

Maybe, the media should give Tony and Lovie a break!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

I never said they did not desearve it!

I know you didn't and neither did we.

Since no one said they didn't deserve it, why do you keep ranting about "yeah, they're black but they aren't here because they're black...they deserve to be where they are...they would probably rather not be in the spotlight about being the first blacks."

We know they deserve to be where they are and (again) you don't know what these coaches care about or if they're offended about being an acknowledged FIRST. It's like you're trying really hard to appear colorblind or something (as do many whites) when this discussion never called for it.

[starang21]

go colts

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Since no one said they didn't deserve it, why do you keep ranting about "yeah, they're black but they aren't here because they're black...they deserve to be where they are...they would probably rather not be in the spotlight about being the first blacks."

BECAUSE HE IS A DRUNK FOOL.

Yeah, I said it.

[CutiePie2000]

DSTCHAOS is the greatest and deserving of much praise and accolades.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

BECAUSE HE IS A DRUNK FOOL.

Yeah, I said it.

Ohhhhhhhhh.....

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

DSTCHAOS is the greatest and deserving of much praise and accolades.

You rock. And I guess I owe you some money for this plug.

[shinerbock]

I think I'm gonna start a blog where I detail all the opportunities I hoard on a daily basis. I'll post the link when I decide.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

BECAUSE HE IS A DRUNK FOOL.

Yeah, I said it.

Oh My, if that is against me as a person, then I will not put on here what I could think you might and could be!

If not, I appologize but I really doubt it!

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

TonyB06, that was not the intent as some want to make a big deal about on site.

It is my feeling that both of these gentlemen would prefer the spot light not be on them, but on the players and the game.

Do they desearve it, YES. Did they earn it, YES!

The coach I admire the most is Eddie Robinson of Grambling who did not get the recognition that He so richly desearved.

Oh, for those who do not know, he was happy at what he was doing and where he was with the school, his team, and its athletes.

Ok, Tom
I take you at your word. I've seen both Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy interviewed recently, and while both are focusing on their teams, they each spoke poignantly about what this accomplishment meant. They expressed gratitude to those who opened the door through which they (Smith/Dungy and hopefully others) now walk. So, I think they're handling the "spotlight" quite well.

I, too, admire Eddie Robinson, who happens to be a distinguished brother of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. Head coach at Grambling for 56 years, more than 400 career wins; The Football Writers of America "Coach of the Year" Award is named after him.

Yep, Eddie Robinson, is, indeed, somebody's football coach....

[shinerbock]

I love the term "opportunity hoarding." Damn white males. For future reference, I plan on continuing to hoard all the opportunities I can.

On a serious note, I think there is something to be said about black Americans having to play catch up. However, its not just white people, or even mostly white people, that are holding them back.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I love the term "opportunity hoarding." Damn white males. For future reference, I plan on continuing to hoard all the opportunities I can.

Thank Charles Tilley's Durable Inequality (1998) for that. He rocks.

I'm glad you're humored by it all but it's very real.