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Old 01-17-2007, 06:11 PM
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James Dobson is not a Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell Christian. To lump him in with them is pretty far-fetched.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:42 PM
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James Dobson is not a Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell Christian. To lump him in with them is pretty far-fetched.
I find him and his Focus on the Family organization to be just as bad, if less prone to saying things that are utterly retarded (hateful yes, but just not as dumb as labelling Tinky Winky gay). Fear mongering and myopic in the extreme.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:09 PM
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If FOTF saying things like "homosexuality is a sin" then yeah, i guess they're an extremist organization. Lets put them on a watch list. Its amazing who could be classified as a "hate-monger" these days...pretty much anyone who stands up for something.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:27 PM
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If FOTF saying things like "homosexuality is a sin" then yeah, i guess they're an extremist organization. Lets put them on a watch list. Its amazing who could be classified as a "hate-monger" these days...pretty much anyone who stands up for something.

I didn't say hate-monger, I said fear. I don't think they are necessarily promoting hate so much as they are profiting off of the fear that is already there in our society- fear of society's degeneration, fear of homosexuality, fear of other races- in order to promote their own agendas and make money.

They are way more dangerous than Falwell, etc. because they have the good sense to be more subtle with their language and agenda.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:06 PM
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Dangerous to what YOU believe.

It isn't fear, its faith. Its what they believe, not merely some way to make money.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:44 AM
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Did anyone else see the Fox News segment talking about Obama? Basically, they spread the word that he is a smoker and has been hiding it from the public. Since he has been hiding that, they decided to talk about what other things he could be hiding from the voting public, such as his real views on current issues.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:43 PM
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Get used to it. You throw your hat in the ring and the gloves will come off.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:32 PM
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Dangerous to what YOU believe.

It isn't fear, its faith. Its what they believe, not merely some way to make money.
I am pretty sceptical about public figures promoting a religious agenda. I think 99% of them are in it for fame and glory and spreading the word of God is a DISTANT second. I wouldn't care if they were Hindu, Muslim, or Unitarian, I just think that people who really want to promote their beliefs do it day-to-day, not on tv or in the media.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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Its perfectly fine to be skeptical of such people. However, I think anyone who was really aware of how Dobson is would have a tough time attaching such a description to him.
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