Local seeking NPC affiliation

[BlueEyedButrfly]

Hey guys...I'm kinda bummed. I sent NPC information to my student activities director (which, apparently, isn't even her normal job) and this is her reply to me:

Hi Mary,

Thank you. That information was exactly what I was looking for when I asked what the practical extended responsibility of an institution was. I knew the NPC extension process would likely call for a campus coordinator as an administrative contact who would represent the college and commit to the integrity of the extension process on campus.

As you might remember, the Director of Student Activities position at RIC has been vacant for two years. As the Director of the Student Union, I have been trying to tend to the Student Union Director’s job while upholding the Student Activities basic functions – all the while fully aware that neither position is fully meeting its potential and internal goals for our department. Unfortunately, I do not have the time, personnel or expertise to dedicate to an effort such as yours at this time.

If I have misunderstood this aspect of the extension process or if there is another way to handle it without the administrative commitment, I would welcome your ideas and alternative perspective. Otherwise, I expect to continue to support your currently recognized student organization, as I do our other student groups, and look forward to a great spring semester.

Kristen

So, does anyone have any ideas as to how I can continue on trying to go National without a commitment from her? This really stinks

[33girl]

Basically, she's saying she's a great big lazy ass and doesn't want to do her job. Keep bugging her until she does something about it.

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She's really shooting herself in the foot because if a lot more local groups spring up, she'll have a MUCH bigger job than she would if she would have permitted you guys to go national. All she has to do is be a liason - no one is asking her to do all the legwork, it sounds like you guys have already done that. Doesn't she have a grad assistant or anyone helping her?

[FSUZeta]

would it be possible to go to the dean of students and seek some assistance? or the president of the college?

it's a shame that your dreams are left to stagnate because the college is understaffed.

basically, to begin a colony, the sorority will send younger alumnae members(zta calls them tlc's-traveling leadership consultants-they are paid members whose job is to travel around the country visiting existing chapters and colonies and helping establish new colonies) to canvas the campus, putting up posters, chalking the sidewalk, and laying the ground work for the actual colonization process. this usually happens a week or so before the expansion team shows up. when that happens, alumnae members of the sorority will come to campus and hold interviews with interested women. -parties will also be held over several nights that are open to all interested women -video presentations may be made, songs may be sung, they may even bring in collegiate members of a nearby chapter so that the pnms can meet actual collegiate members and hear firsthand what it is like to be in abc sorority. invitations will be extended for the last night, which is pref. night. the pref, ceremony will be presented, just like it is at other campuses, with an established chapter. invitations to join will be extended and the colony takes its first baby step.

during the colonization process, local alumnae members and (at least for zta) tlc's will work closely with the new colonists as they learn sorority history, do philanthropic ,sisterhood and social activities and learn how a chapter functions. after a few weeks, interviews will be held for those women who are interested in holding an office and officers will be selected. after a certain period of time the colony will go thru the chartering process and become a functioning chapter. in zta, the new chapter will have an alumnae advisory board made up of local alumnae who work under the direction of a director of new chapters(dnch), who works under our national extension director. after a few years under the direction of the dnch the chapter will be turned over to the province president.

i know, i know too much information, but that is basically how it happens-at least in zta. different sororities may have different timelines for their colonies, but i would imagine that the basic founding and education of the colonists would be similar to all.

[LPIDelta]

Actually I think this student union woman is being responsible. She realizes that there is an institutional commitment to bringing a sorority to campus, and that is a good thing. I have worked with a campus that was not interested in doing things the "NPC way" and it was awful--so I appreciate her feedback.

On the flip side, I do not see how a national sorority would require anymore time of university staff/administration than a local, other than the occasional visit from a national reprepsentative etc. There will be work required on the front end, in terms of the initial visits, but most national organizations that would consider expanding to your campus are going to see the staff and know what kind of commitment to expect.

Really what you need is permission from the proper authority, and in this case it could be the director of the student union or the dean/vp of students...whatever you have on your campus. Once that permission is granted, I think you and your sisters could carry much of the weight in terms of organizing things. Plus, you'll probably need a campus advisor if you do not have one already.

If you need any other assistance, let me know.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Heather17

Actually I think this student union woman is being responsible. She realizes that there is an institutional commitment to bringing a sorority to campus, and that is a good thing. I have worked with a campus that was not interested in doing things the "NPC way" and it was awful--so I appreciate her feedback.

On the flip side, I do not see how a national sorority would require anymore time of university staff/administration than a local, other than the occasional visit from a national reprepsentative etc. There will be work required on the front end, in terms of the initial visits, but most national organizations that would consider expanding to your campus are going to see the staff and know what kind of commitment to expect.

Really what you need is permission from the proper authority, and in this case it could be the director of the student union or the dean/vp of students...whatever you have on your campus. Once that permission is granted, I think you and your sisters could carry much of the weight in terms of organizing things. Plus, you'll probably need a campus advisor if you do not have one already.

If you need any other assistance, let me know.

You truely placed the onus or information where it should be.

One of the most schools that I remeber is the one that carnation is the most familiar with: Troy from Rome, Ga.

"An" campus advisor is the key. Do they know or not? Do they have the background to deal with it?

Being a Greek Advisor for a school is fairly new even today! It is relegated as a sub catagory.

[BlueEyedButrfly]

thanks so much everyone!

so do you think that with permission from the dean of students we would be okay? we do have an advisor that we can put down in the letter as a contact (it is a male though, does this matter?) and i would definitely also be willing to be the contact for the local sorority.

we would definitely be doing the majority of the organizing and legwork (as we have been all along) and we know the sororities that we would like to contact regarding expansion.

maybe i shouldn't have even brought this up with the student union director, i only did so because she has been the person we've been contacting with questions and concerns about our local.

i'm def. going to get in touch with the dean of students regarding this.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by BlueEyedButrfly

maybe i shouldn't have even brought this up with the student union director, i only did so because she has been the person we've been contacting with questions and concerns about our local.

No you did the right thing. She is the most logical person to start with because she is your most direct contact with the university. Unfortunately, she is saying that her plate is too full to deal with it.

[AEPhiSierra]

Talk to NPC again and explain the exact situation with the student activities director, I am sure it isn't unheard of.

If your campus doesn't want to help but isn't out right against National organizations you still have a chance of starting up a chapter, it will just be more work. From what I have I seen you will probably need to remain a local for a year or two at least unless your student activities director decides to become supportive.

First, strenghten your local organization as much as you can. The stronger the group is the more likely an organization would be willing to colonize. You have to prove that even without supportive student life office you can retain membership, have women active on campus and have a high gpa. Right now a national group may not want to take a risk with your chapter for fear it would close quickly without a larger number of members and a supportive administration. Prove you're not a risk!

Secondly, you have 3 groups in mind and I don't know what they are but please keep your mind open when it comes to which groups you would be willing to affiliate with. There are certain groups that are more willing to work with schools that either aren't traditionally greek, have a high percentage of commuters and/or will most likely have smaller chapters. Plus groups with these types of chapters will be more familiar with your type of student life director.

If you really want to do this you still can, it just won't happen overnight

[aopirose]

Agreeing with 33 and FSU Zeta. You really can't get around the Proper Authority issue as someone from the school administration has to be involved and give thier OK. I know that it is a toughh situation and I hope that you can work through it.