What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

I find it interesting that Asians are interested in joining "new" GLOs because where I come from, all most Asians (at least HK Chinese) care about is "tradition." Parents who can afford private school more often send their kids to century-plus prep schools than a post WWII school with an excellent academic reputation.

When making a statement like this I feel it is important to specify which Asian community, since the term Asian covers a lot of different groups.

Here in Minnesota the vast majority of Asians are Southeast Asians. And we have found that even with that geographical focus, there are many differences among the Hmong, Laotians, Cambodians, and Vietnamese communities.

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

When making a statement like this I feel it is important to specify which Asian community, since the term Asian covers a lot of different groups.

Here in Minnesota the vast majority of Asians are Southeast Asians. And we have found that even with that geographical focus, there are many differences among the Hmong, Laotians, Cambodians, and Vietnamese communities.

OK, I should clarify. The majority of "Asians" in Toronto are of Chinese descent, mostly from Hong Kong (and I guess their British colonial upbringing is probably the reason why they are likely to send their children to old line prep schools...these schools are still relatively strong in UK heritage). Hong Kong and Taiwanese (despite their non-UK colonial past) make up a good proportion of Asian students in such schools, but there are some Korean students there too.

[cheerfulgreek]

I think BGLO orgs sometimes bring segregation in when there isn't any. For example at my school we always ask several BGLOs to participate in Greek Week and they never do. That's so sad . At my school there is an NPHC fraternity that is the 1st BGLO to have a house on fraternity and sorority row. I see this as integration. If they separate themselves from NPC/IFC greeks then this is what causes segregation.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I think BGLO orgs sometimes bring segregation in when there isn't any.

No such thing and people who actually pay attention know this.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

For example at my school we always ask several BGLOs to participate in Greek Week and they never do.

Because? Do you know why not or do you assume why not?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

At my school there is an NPHC fraternity that is the 1st BGLO to have a house on fraternity and sorority row. I see this as integration.

I see it as nothing more than one BGLO fraternity happened to meet whatever criteria and not get voted down. In the racial/residential segregation literature this is considered a surface level integration because the fraternity and sorority row will strategically never go beyond the "tipping point" of 1 or at the most 2 BGLO organizations. This "tipping point" will shape the extent of all interracial and interorganizational interactions--since NPHC fraternity presence on fraternity row was the metric for integration in your mind.

[Dionysus]

[Butthead]

He said ethnic. Huh huh huh huh huh...

[/Butthead]

[PrettyBoy]

I see we're still on this topic that no one can agree on.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I see we're still on this topic that no one can agree on.

Wassup, homie. How ya livin'?!

^^^ "ethnic" speak that "ethnic" GLOs use with each other

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Wassup, homie. How ya livin'?!

^^^ "ethnic" speak that "ethnic" GLOs use with each other

Happy New Year DSTCHAOS. I was on vacation. I made it back Friday.

Originally Posted by Dionysus

[Butthead]

He said ethnic. Huh huh huh huh huh...

[/Butthead]

I remember when I got called an "ethnic" by someone on GC.

The guy who called me that is no longer alive.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by OTW

I remember when I got called an "ethnic" by someone on GC.

The guy who called me that is no longer alive.

RIP Erik P Conard

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

RIP Erik P Conard

He is my first e-person passing. Dang it felt just as sad as if I had known him personally.

I guess in spite of our differences we are all united in this e-world.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

No such thing and people who actually pay attention know this.



Because? Do you know why not or do you assume why not?



I see it as nothing more than one BGLO fraternity happened to meet whatever criteria and not get voted down. In the racial/residential segregation literature this is considered a surface level integration because the fraternity and sorority row will strategically never go beyond the "tipping point" of 1 or at the most 2 BGLO organizations. This "tipping point" will shape the extent of all interracial and interorganizational interactions--since NPHC fraternity presence on fraternity row was the metric for integration in your mind.

No, I don't know why. You're NPHC, can you tell me? Or do you even know yourself?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

No, I don't know why. You're NPHC, can you tell me? Or do you even know yourself?

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

[ejay286]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

Exactly, the biggest NPHC group on my campus is the AKAs and they attempted to participate in greek week but it was too much for them. They have about 30 members but compared to the 50 and 60+ membership of the NPC sororities they simply couldn't compete with them in some of the events. So it is very understandable why they wouldn't compete.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

I think that's a poor excuse because on my campus the numbers are not that far off.