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11-05-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard anyone say. You would actually be ok with prison officials killing people sentenced to death by dismembering them, strangling them, or bludgeoning them to death depending on the case? And what about if someone (such as numerous serial killers in our countries history) sexually assaulted their victims right before or after their death? Even though that didn't cause their death, it's certainly not something that can be ignored? Would you like prison officials to engage in this as well, just to make SURE the punishment fit the crime? I don't know if you actually thought your statement through before you made it, but people need to realize that sometimes the crimes people commit are just too horrific (Saddam and so many others) to be evenly "matched" with a punishment. I believe it takes truly sick and messed up people to commit crimes like these, and I don't think that *I personally* would want those type of people being in charge of official government executions.
Ok I am sorry to hijack this thread with my ramblings. Personally, I don't care what happens to Saddam whether he hangs, dies by a firing squad, or rots in jail for the rest of his life. All that matters to me is that he'll never again be a free man and able to commit any more crimes. The end.
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Heeeeeeey, don't call me an idiot. I don't ACTUALLY want them to use the death penalty that way, but its just really awful that people are tortured and slowly killed, and then everyone walks on eggshells trying to treat their killers "humanely".
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11-05-2006, 11:31 PM
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This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard anyone say.
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Heeeeeeey, don't call me an idiot.
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She didn't.
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11-06-2006, 12:25 AM
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The punishment, whatever it ends up being, will never fit the crime. But isn't that true for all capital punishment?
I personally think that Saddam should be sentenced to hard time in the slums of Shaolin.
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11-06-2006, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchkin03
The punishment, whatever it ends up being, will never fit the crime. But isn't that true for all capital punishment?
I personally think that Saddam should be sentenced to hard time in the slums of Shaolin.
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Yeah, personally I think the most humane thing would be to take a coat hanger and stretch that shit out, then put it on a stove, and get that shit red hot . . .
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11-06-2006, 09:58 AM
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My idea for the "punishment fitting the crime" is for crimnals to have their organs harvested. If they killed 5 people (I know, I know Saddam killed thousands, but just as an example) their organs could be used for transplants and save at least 5 lives. Heck, technically, the 12 pints of blood alone in the average human could save up to 36 lives...plus the corneas, liver, kidneys, lungs, etc...
The only problem is with people on death row who have abused their bodies with drugs, etc...
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11-06-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
My idea for the "punishment fitting the crime" is for crimnals to have their organs harvested. If they killed 5 people (I know, I know Saddam killed thousands, but just as an example) their organs could be used for transplants and save at least 5 lives. Heck, technically, the 12 pints of blood alone in the average human could save up to 36 lives...plus the corneas, liver, kidneys, lungs, etc...
The only problem is with people on death row who have abused their bodies with drugs, etc...
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I wonder if some people wouldn't want those organs, though, since they came from an evil person.
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11-06-2006, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sdsuchelle
I wonder if some people wouldn't want those organs, though, since they came from an evil person.
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Yeah, fuck that surviving thing, I don't want to become Damian from The Omen. Seriously.
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11-07-2006, 12:00 AM
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From the Op-Ed/Editorial Cartoonist around the US & World:
http://cagle.com/news/SaddamDeath/
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11-07-2006, 12:34 AM
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11-07-2006, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
My idea for the "punishment fitting the crime" is for crimnals to have their organs harvested. If they killed 5 people (I know, I know Saddam killed thousands, but just as an example) their organs could be used for transplants and save at least 5 lives. Heck, technically, the 12 pints of blood alone in the average human could save up to 36 lives...plus the corneas, liver, kidneys, lungs, etc...
The only problem is with people on death row who have abused their bodies with drugs, etc...
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This is also against some religious laws. Defiling your temple and such...
I think that organ donation should ALWAYS be completely voluntary. This includes convicts.
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11-07-2006, 03:53 AM
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Yeah, fuck that surviving thing, I don't want to become Damian from The Omen. Seriously.
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Some people are crazy like that.
I had several people refuse to buy things when I worked retail because their total was $6.66.
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11-07-2006, 08:35 AM
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This is also against some religious laws. Defiling your temple and such...
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Yeah, but I think they lose their right to claim religion when they murder another person, which is generally against most religious laws.
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11-07-2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
My idea for the "punishment fitting the crime" is for crimnals to have their organs harvested. If they killed 5 people (I know, I know Saddam killed thousands, but just as an example) their organs could be used for transplants and save at least 5 lives. Heck, technically, the 12 pints of blood alone in the average human could save up to 36 lives...plus the corneas, liver, kidneys, lungs, etc...
The only problem is with people on death row who have abused their bodies with drugs, etc...
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I actually like that idea. I remember a long time ago in the mid 90s, a person who was on death row volunteered himself for a medical cause by letting reserachers frozen his whole body, and slice it into thin slices and scan them into the computer to create a 3D image of a body with a complete set of organs in there.
Gift from a murderer: http://www.davidrothman.com/murderer.html
But of course in no way it'll redeem himself. But considering that he suffered from the loss of his two sons....
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11-07-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Yeah, but I think they lose their right to claim religion when they murder another person, which is generally against most religious laws.
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Many prisoners find religion in prision, when they do, they usually know they were wrong and want their G*d to punish them for it. It isn't up to you to judge, if they find G*d, then they should be allowed to follow all of the tenets of their chosen religion.
I personally believe that the fact that the US/Iraq/anywhere practices capital punishment is shameful and I think that Saddam's death will only make a martyr of him.
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11-07-2006, 02:16 PM
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I don't think they should be "allowed" to do anything. I don't think killing a guy that murdered thousands of people is "shameful" one bit.....neither is, for example, executing a serial murderer who butchers women left and right. Maybe I just don't find it appealing to let the guy sit in prison with free meals and a bed to sleep in every night.
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