Beta back at USC and Miami (FL)

sdbeta1 · #1 11-07-2006, 08:50 AM

83 men! Wow, what a number. This is already larger than most chapters out there. Eventhough the number is large, they will still face the same challenges all new expansions encounter. But, I remember talking about USC two years ago back when San Diego was being colonized. When we heard LMU had 64, we were already astonished. So does this count as the fourth successful expansion in Southern California over the past four years?

furmanbeta · #2 11-07-2006, 09:29 AM

Sure sounds like it. I saw both those blurbs on General's website and was extremely impressed. The expansions last year weren't even within shouting distance of these numbers, so I have to give all the credit in the world to this year's LC's. They have clearly done a phenominal job. It's giving me a ton of hope as well, because both my chapter (Furman, Zeta Lambda) and the chapter where I'm doing grad school (Virginia, Omicron) will be recolonized within the next couple of years, or so we've been told. These sorts of numbers give new chapters their best opportunity to become successful, and I look forward to more high quality expansions.

a.e.B.O.T. · #3 11-12-2006, 03:39 PM

Well, they definitely are not going to have it easy. All 83 and 63 men joined with a purpose, and some of those purposes are going to clash. They have to build a foundation and with that many people, there are going to be many perspectives of how to do it. I was part of a 39 men founding father class, and it was really hard. 10 dropped out mainly because of personal conflict. The general perspective of members who come in as founding father is that they get to be a leader and help build it, which is so true, but they all try to jump in the kitchen, and then you just have too many chefs. So, with a group that size, its going to be really hard, and really frustrating for most of them.

#4 11-14-2006, 12:31 AM

Seems like everytime GF starts a new colony they get a ton of guys, I think its because they have the money and the resources to do a sucessfull recruitment. 83 guys is amazing, but I would question it also. I mean there is only one opionon of what kind of guy your letting in. Without a chapter to help select the men it seems like it defeats the purpose. I trust any betas opinion, but Its not about quantity its about quality. USC is a great school with alot of talented your men..No doubt that there are some true leaders in that pledge class.

a.e.B.O.T. · #5 11-16-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZetaDelta143

Seems like everytime GF starts a new colony they get a ton of guys, I think its because they have the money and the resources to do a sucessfull recruitment. 83 guys is amazing, but I would question it also. I mean there is only one opionon of what kind of guy your letting in. Without a chapter to help select the men it seems like it defeats the purpose. I trust any betas opinion, but Its not about quantity its about quality. USC is a great school with alot of talented your men..No doubt that there are some true leaders in that pledge class.

Well, the bad ones will weed out, the workers will stay... i gaurentee that they will not have 83 by the end of the school year. The key move is to put the right people in the right offices, which the GF does, not the founding fathers. So hopefully, the bad ones will get frustrated and leave, which is how I think it ussually works!!!

Coramoor · #6 04-19-2007, 07:47 AM

Things will work themselves out over time.

My advice is to concentrate on brotherhood and figuring out what direction you want your chapter to go. Once you figure out what you want...those that can't agree leave and the those that stay work to a common goal.

My question is how is nationals dealing with you now that you are an establish colony. Have they sort of ditched you or are they still giving you a lot of attention?

ZZ-kai- · #7 04-19-2007, 02:11 PM

So let me get this straight. The house is dry, it's a large and diverse chapter and you have a full and active advisor staff? What's wrong with that?

You won't get along with everyone, ever. If your chapter was 10 men, you'd likely not get along with at least 1 person, with 80+ guys, you can expect to dislike many men. Do you have to hang out with them? No. Do you have to get along with them? No. Do you have to deal with them, sure. But, in life, that is expected. Take that as advice for your future career, family reunions and meeting your in-laws.

Being an MOP chapter, dry house, and large and diverse - these are things you knew going in. If you didn't like it then, you shouldn't have joined. If you thought the rules were 'gray', well, thats your own fault. If you don't like the rules now, its not too late to quit.

Point being, you're never going to like everyone, the chapter is there to provide you a tool to succeed in life, not to 'drink in the house'. If that were the case, TKE is right down the street.