The Deal with Do Rags

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

it seems rather elitist.

That's one of the purposes. If you don't like eliteism, apply elsewhere.

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

If I'm not comfortable wearing something, my performance will probably decline. If I have to worry about ironing a shirt before class, my head obviously isn't focused on the actual class. It's focused on ironing. If I pay to take classes, I can come dressed in a hoodie and pajama pants if I want. Unless someone is paying me or furnishing my wardrobe, I'll wear whatever I choose. The people I respect aren't superficial. And to be honest, my education actually liberated me more than it did control me. I grew up going to schools with dress codes and thought that everyone should do that to be great college bound students and all that jazz, but once I got to college, I realized that appearance isn't everything. People who judge others based on appearance are usually insecure themselves.

Many of the people you respect also care about outside appearance to an extent. That doesn't have to make them superficial. I'm sure you've seen someone dressed less than what you DEEM to be appropriate, in a certain context, and made assumptions of that person. Hell, I've even come across students who don't wash their asses or brush their teeth all day. That's offensive and distracting but based on your logic it's cool as long as it floats their boat and THEY can focus.

Point being, many campuses wish to create certain atmospheres as I previously stated. A school where students walk around barefoot have created a certain type of environment. A school where almost every male student is rocking a doorag and his boxers are showing all the way to his knees, has created a certain type of environment. One student doing it...okay...but 300 students doing it and you've shaped the landscape. So schools are making changes while the "issue" is still a small one so they can socialize students into a campus culture. Then they don't have to do a formal dress code or run around like "doorag nazis."

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's one of the purposes. If you don't like eliteism, apply elsewhere.



Many of the people you respect also care about outside appearance to an extent. That doesn't have to make them superficial. I'm sure you've seen someone dressed less than what you DEEM to be appropriate, in a certain context, and made assumptions of that person. Hell, I've even come across students who don't wash their asses or brush their teeth all day. That's offensive and distracting but based on your logic it's cool as long as it floats their boat and THEY can focus.

Point being, many campuses wish to create certain atmospheres as I previously stated. A school where students walk around barefoot have created a certain type of environment. A school where almost every male student is rocking a doorag and his boxers are showing all the way to his knees, has created a certain type of environment. One student doing it...okay...but 300 students doing it and you've shaped the landscape. So schools are making changes while the "issue" is still a small one so they can socialize students into a campus culture. Then they don't have to do a formal dress code or run around like "doorag nazis."

Whoa now... I never said bad hygeine was okay with me. That is very distracting and can become a health problem for other students. I'd move to another seat in the lecture hall if I encountered bad hygeine. I'm tolerant but I do have limits.

I recently talked with some friends of mine who went to BYU. There, beards are not allowed in addition to a laundry list of other items and activities. To agree with you on something, I can safely say that I would never have applied there, knowing that school's policy.

I'm not saying that all people who care about outside appearance are superficial. But people should mind their own business when it comes to what someone else chooses to wear. If one person can wear a do-rag, head scarve, rain bonnet, hat, turban, etc. then every person should be allowed to do the same. If the university is public, then there should be consistency. A no do-rag rule should apply to both men and women, and be clearly stated in the admissions brochure. It shouldn't be a university's role to socialize students into a campus culture. The students themselves have proven academically and socially that they can function at the school or else they would not have gotten in. The president of a university should be a president; not a parent.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

Whoa now... I never said bad hygeine was okay with me. That is very distracting and can become a health problem for other students. I'd move to another seat in the lecture hall if I encountered bad hygeine. I'm tolerant but I do have limits.

Well, guess what, if you're going to take the time to have GOOD hygiene then you might as well take an extra 5-10 minutes and actually put on something other than pajamas.

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

But people should mind their own business when it comes to what someone else chooses to wear.

Sometimes people do mind their own business. Sometimes people don't. It depends on context and that's what this thread is about.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well, guess what, if you're going to take the time to have GOOD hygiene then you might as well take an extra 5-10 minutes and actually put on something other than pajamas.


Sometimes people do mind their own business. Sometimes people don't. It depends on context and that's what this thread is about.

A hoodie works just fine with pajama pants. And a do-rag can be applied on the walk to class. For the record, I always wore a hat over my do-rag. But I'm still not taking it off for some bigwig who wants to power trip.

Yeah, some people act like jerks, and some people just hold it in. I wonder if the HBCU mentioned in the first post was public or private. If it was private, most of my rambles are rather moot. Professor, are you still listening, er.. reading?

[laylo]

I think part of the issue is that although a university prepares you for the workplace, it is also where you live. Even if I was a corporate lawyer, nobody could tell me I can't wear a scarf around my yard or in the car on the way to work. The level of control some HBCUs have over what students can do and say and wear 24-7 is insulting. I've been sent back to my room to change because I was wearing jeans to arts events on saturdays that I was attending for personal enjoyment.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by laylo

I've been sent back to my room to change because I was wearing jeans to arts events on saturdays that I was attending for personal enjoyment.

LOL. This wording was funny. Did they send you to bed with no dinner, too?

[laylo]

lol...I'm saying though, it isn't that far off! RAs punished their halls by putting people on early curfew for a week (that is, earlier than regular curfew). Come on now, I'm getting grounded by another student??