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10-19-2006, 12:41 PM
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I'm surprised this went through. I was so sure nothing would get passed that I barely listened to anything on the news about this. From the above article I'm going to hazard a guess that "landlords will be required to submit documentation of their tenants' immigration status" would apply only to tenants that admit to not being US citizens. Otherwise, every single renter would have to submit something to their landlord. Which means that the city and the federal government would have to confirm every single renter in the city. I've always been under the impression that Escondido has a high percentage of renters. It'd be a waste of resources both at the city but also the federal level.
Also, considering the city is largely Hispanic and the proximity to the border, it be a hard sale to claim this isn't targeting Hispanics. Immigration policies on a National level I'm almost always willing to believe are not targeting Hispanics, but this is just too glaring to ignore.
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10-19-2006, 12:49 PM
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Immigration policies on a National level I'm almost always willing to believe are not targeting Hispanics
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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10-19-2006, 12:57 PM
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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Yes, I realize it can be naive. It's just that I realize there's lots of illegals from plenty of other ethnicities. Plus, because of where I live, I don't so much think of Hispanics as immigrants (illegal or otherwise) as I think of them as just being a part of the community. :shrug: Honestly, when I hear "immigrant" I think Hispanics last. For some reason I think of European immigrants first!
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10-19-2006, 01:15 PM
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I really have no problem with this.
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10-20-2006, 09:55 AM
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I really have no problem with this.
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Me neither - no problem with this at all.
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10-20-2006, 12:07 PM
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Since Hispanics are our biggest miniroty, whether this is aimed at them or not, it will have a bigger overall effect on them as a group.
If enforced fairly, though, it will affect any undocumented person.
I guess the way I look at the whole situation is that "illegal" means just that and laws should be enforced. If a law is unfair (any law), get it changed. I know that's not easy, but the option is the kind of chaos that is present in our immigration system today.
People who are going through the process of attaining citizenship or getting the prescribed documents to live and/or work here are not "illegal," only the sometimes victims of what may be a difficult system.
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10-20-2006, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Since Hispanics are our biggest miniroty, whether this is aimed at them or not, it will have a bigger overall effect on them as a group.
If enforced fairly, though, it will affect any undocumented person.
I guess the way I look at the whole situation is that "illegal" means just that and laws should be enforced. If a law is unfair (any law), get it changed. I know that's not easy, but the option is the kind of chaos that is present in our immigration system today.
People who are going through the process of attaining citizenship or getting the prescribed documents to live and/or work here are not "illegal," only the sometimes victims of what may be a difficult system.
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It really does make me sad that a lot of illegal immigrants move here to better their life, and they really try. It's easy to say 'send them all back!' when you don't know what they'd be going back to.
The illegals that piss me off are the ones who don't work, who take advantage of the system and basically churn out babies while draining the government.
I'm legal and it's still really hard to get my citizenship. I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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10-19-2006, 01:32 PM
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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There are some parts of the country where the illegal immigrants aren't Hispanic.
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10-19-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy
There are some parts of the country where the illegal immigrants aren't Hispanic.
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I realize that, but in working with my husband's immigration papers lately, it's hard to NOT see the National policy that IS directed at Hispanics.
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10-19-2006, 01:41 PM
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Alpha, could it possibly be that national policy against illegal immigration is targetted at hispanics principally because the vast majority of illegals are hispanic?
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10-19-2006, 04:02 PM
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Alpha, could it possibly be that national policy against illegal immigration is targetted at hispanics principally because the vast majority of illegals are hispanic?
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I don't dispute that at all. I dispute the statement that SoCalGirl made about national policy not being directed at Hispanics.
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10-19-2006, 04:54 PM
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It is directed at Hispanics, as it should be. Its not racism, its addressing the problem.
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10-19-2006, 01:41 PM
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Personally, I think the law is a great idea.
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10-19-2006, 01:53 PM
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Ditto! i feel ya about working on the husband's immigration papers  (except mine is from further North) 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
I realize that, but in working with my husband's immigration papers lately, it's hard to NOT see the National policy that IS directed at Hispanics.
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10-19-2006, 02:18 PM
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Did you 2 marry illegal immigrants? 
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