Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by kddani

They why is it that several NPC sororities have taken public information about AI down from their websites, and several have totally revamped/are in the process of revamping their AI policies? Several (Inter)National Officers from various groups have stated that a large part of the reason for both of those was the artificial market that GC was creating.

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

Do you get all your source material from the internet? I'm sorry, but its time to learn that there are other ways of getting information than from the internet!

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by epchick

Do you get all your source material from the internet? I'm sorry, but its time to learn that there are other ways of getting information than from the internet!

Of course not. But when you make a statement like that, you need to be able to source it, otherwise it's just heresay.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

BINGO!

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

BINGO!

Was his name-o!

I think you are taking the 'AI is ritual' a bit too literally. Obviously the fact it exists is NOT ritual or you wouldn't know about it, this forum wouldn't exist etc etc.
What is classified information is sororities' individual policies on AI. If there's going to be a list detailing who's easy, who's more difficult and who's AI process is such that you have more of a chance of immaculate conception then I may as well start a website that lists the reasons people get rejected during undergrad recruitment.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Was his name-o!

I think you are taking the 'AI is ritual' a bit too literally. Obviously the fact it exists is NOT ritual or you wouldn't know about it, this forum wouldn't exist etc etc.
What is classified information is sororities' individual policies on AI. If there's going to be a list detailing who's easy, who's more difficult and who's AI process is such that you have more of a chance of immaculate conception then I may as well start a website that lists the reasons people get rejected during undergrad recruitment.

Not so fast, you (plural) can't argue that it's ritual and then when it doesn't support your current argument, suddenly decide that it's not. She posted that they don't give out that information b/c it was ritual...sounds pretty clear to me. Yet another GLO member posted on this thread that that whether they do AI or not isn't, so which is it?

The list did not detail which ones were easy. Never suggested it, IN FACT, SPECIFICALLY SAID do not interpret it that way. I am sure one of your moderator friends can pull that information up.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Not so fast, you (plural) can't argue that it's ritual and then when it doesn't support your current argument, suddenly decide that it's not. She posted that they don't give out that information b/c it was ritual...sounds pretty clear to me. Yet another GLO member posted on this thread that that whether they do AI or not isn't, so which is it?

The list did not detail which ones were easy. Never suggested it, IN FACT, SPECIFICALLY SAID do not interpret it that way. I am sure one of your moderator friends can pull that information up.

It specifically said this AFTER it was misused.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Yet another GLO member posted on this thread that that whether they do AI or not isn't, so which is it?

THAT'S THE POINT...IT VARIES FROM THE 26 NPC SORORITIES.

Sorry to yell, but you're f*ing pissing me off because you don't listen to anything anyone posts who doesn't support your want for AI info.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Not so fast, you (plural) can't argue that it's ritual and then when it doesn't support your current argument, suddenly decide that it's not. She posted that they don't give out that information b/c it was ritual...sounds pretty clear to me. Yet another GLO member posted on this thread that that whether they do AI or not isn't, so which is it?

The list did not detail which ones were easy. Never suggested it, IN FACT, SPECIFICALLY SAID do not interpret it that way. I am sure one of your moderator friends can pull that information up.

Here's the deal-recruitment isn't ritual, AI and its existence isn't ritual. What is ritual is the process through both on the sister side. We (not suggesting we're conspiring and actually do know each other's private information) know what it takes to get someone initiated as an AI. If we like you enough, we will share that with you.
AI's existence isn't ritual, the minutae of the process are. I would never presume to tell any woman, no matter how I liked her, what it will take to get her into my chapter through undergrad recruitment.
Also, I find it mildly insulting that you refer to the mods as our 'moderator friends'. There is no moderator conspiracy, it's not us vs. you.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

It's "hearsay" not "here-say". Guess your copy editor would fix that for you back when you reported on legal happenings.

I know very few people who make "speeches" on the internet, and none of them are international officers.

I'm not sure if any of them posted publicly about it, and I don't have the time to search. You are more than welcome to look for them on your own.

The process of selecting members for AI is private membership information, yes. A group being inundated with inquiries because of GC isn't part of that process.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by kddani

It's "hearsay" not "here-say". Guess your copy editor would fix that for you back when you reported on legal happenings.

I know very few people who make "speeches" on the internet, and none of them are international officers.

I'm not sure if any of them posted publicly about it, and I don't have the time to search. You are more than welcome to look for them on your own.

The process of selecting members for AI is private membership information, yes. A group being inundated with inquiries because of GC isn't part of that process.

Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."

And as for open AI information even on your own GLO's web site?

None, nada, zip, zilch, ZERO! Which goes back to this previous point:

Originally Posted by kddani

several NPC sororities have taken public information about AI down from their websites,

So go ahead & let the conversation derail off into whether or not speeches are published on the internet, but we'll know its because your original argument is null & void.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by _Lisa_

And as for open AI information even on your own GLO's web site?

None, nada, zip, zilch, ZERO! Which goes back to this previous point:

This just proves my point. There was no info on the website, and fortunately, I found GC so that I could ask questions of others here in the AI forum.

So go ahead & let the conversation derail off into whether or not speeches are published on the internet, but we'll know its because your original argument is null & void.

Derailing?
I was simply showing Kddani that she was incorrect in her allegation that there are no speeches posted on the internet. If you are going to make a very strong allegation about what an international officer said, you must be prepared to back that up. I would like to see a speech in which one of these officers said such a thing.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."

Wait a minute...broadcast journalism? I thought you were an astronaut

[kddani]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."

That's nice that ZTA has that video up but that's not really relevant to our discussion.

I didn't make an "allegation". I made a statement based on information that multiple officers of various orgs have made in various places. I am not going to search all of GC to find something for you to argue further about. If you're interested, you can find it yourself.

Of course you don't believe me. I could tell you that the apple sitting on my desk is red and you'd accuse me of lying. But I do know that my word is good enough for many people on GC. I don't personally care whether or not you believe me. Even if you don't believe me, then use it as a hypothetical. What if what I said was true? Then what would you say?