Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

adpiucf · #1 10-11-2006, 03:18 PM

excellent point. While NPC has unamious recruitment agreements applicable to collegiate membership intake, AI is specific to each sorority. So an NPC woman would be well within her rights to offer advice to a PNM.

I think the major issue is just that we don't want to "advertise" AI to non-members.

Drolefille · #2 10-11-2006, 03:46 PM

I agree that we don't want to advertise, but I think that people looking at AI who come to GC should be able to talk about it. If someone comes on here shopping, then you bust them for shopping, but you don't screw over those doing it "right" because of it.

IF the AI forum is deleted, I don't want to see discussion prohibited completely. I think that would be a good compromise in many ways. If the threads are just in Greek Life they won't be promoting anything. And I'm in favor of education over ignorance: better to tell them no way in hell, then to let them hope that maybe someday they'll be an XYZ.

greekalum · #3 10-11-2006, 03:50 PM

For many organizations, if they are doing it "right" they aren't sharing their "quest" with the internet.

valkyrie · #4 10-11-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

I agree that we don't want to advertise, but I think that people looking at AI who come to GC should be able to talk about it.

What about people who don't find out about AI until they discover it on GC?

Drolefille · #5 10-11-2006, 04:24 PM

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What about people who don't find out about AI until they discover it on GC?

Either they'll make an inquiry to the GLO and get rejected, or they'll make an inquiry and the sorority will be interested. GC members may be able to direct their inquiry and answer some questions.

People act like everyone on GC is thinking "I'll sponsor any and every person who comes to the board". In fact it seems like inappropriate inquiries get shut down and positive ones get support. The drama comes mostly from NPC members, not AIs.

ReachTheLimit · #6 10-11-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

excellent point. While NPC has unamious recruitment agreements applicable to collegiate membership intake, AI is specific to each sorority. So an NPC woman would be well within her rights to offer advice to a PNM.

I think the major issue is just that we don't want to "advertise" AI to non-members.

If the AI forum is disbanded, I for one, wouldn't be posting here any longer and I would'nt recommend it to anyone else who is looking to AI either. From the dates in the AI forum, there are fewer and fewer posts for AI and it is getting less and less active for AI's. I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

The reason is, there is too much back-stabbing, vindictive behavior on GC. I have been reading through alot of threads, it's better than a book. I saw one thread (on the collegiate side) where a girl's boyfriend had dumped her, and his NEW girlfriend was getting ready to rush in the Spring at another college...she was posting to see if she should call the sorority there because "she couldn't deal with potentially having her as a sister". That's just nothing but high-school BULLSH*T, and I have read the same thing on the AI side. If a member gets into a fight on GC with PNAI, the first thing they say is, "We'll make sure you don't get in."

I just don't understand where that kind of thinking comes from.

Drolefille · #7 10-11-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

If the AI forum is disbanded, I for one, wouldn't be posting here any longer and I would'nt recommend it to anyone else who is looking to AI either. From the dates in the AI forum, there are fewer and fewer posts for AI and it is getting less and less active for AI's. I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

The reason is, there is too much back-stabbing, vindictive behavior on GC. I have been reading through alot of threads, it's better than a book. I saw one thread (on the collegiate side) where a girl's boyfriend had dumped her, and his NEW girlfriend was getting ready to rush in the Spring at another college...she was posting to see if she should call the sorority there because "she couldn't deal with potentially having her as a sister". That's just nothing but high-school BULLSH*T, and I have read the same thing on the AI side. If a member gets into a fight on GC with PNAI, the first thing they say is, "We'll make sure you don't get in."

I just don't understand where that kind of thinking comes from.

To be fair, the AI discussions that have turned into the "where should I write a letter to prevent you from joining" are ones that have turned out to be train wrecks on the PNAI's part as well as the other GC'ers.

Personally, I trust in my sisters' judgments.

ReachTheLimit · #8 10-11-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

To be fair, the AI discussions that have turned into the "where should I write a letter to prevent you from joining" are ones that have turned out to be train wrecks on the PNAI's part as well as the other GC'ers.

Personally, I trust in my sisters' judgments.

I've read back about a year's worth of threads and only found 2 where I would agree were total fruitloops. The others, I thought, were asking general questions and were clearly attacked by those that are just against AI.

OtterXO · #9 10-11-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I've read back about a year's worth of threads and only found 2 where I would agree were total fruitloops. The others, I thought, were asking general questions and were clearly attacked by those that are just against AI.

That's because other threads were deleted....which has been said numerous times.

Drolefille · #10 10-11-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I've read back about a year's worth of threads and only found 2 where I would agree were total fruitloops. The others, I thought, were asking general questions and were clearly attacked by those that are just against AI.

Other threads have been deleted or edited. There are some PNAIs who got caught up in this fight, but usually the attack isn't so much at them as around them.

greekalum · #11 10-11-2006, 04:45 PM

No, guys, look at how we are attacking her for saying the decision is up to the local AA. Her being misinformed is her business and we are bullying her by correcting her.

33girl · #12 10-11-2006, 04:49 PM

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No, guys, look at how we are attacking her for saying the decision is up to the local AA. Her being misinformed is her business and we are bullying her by correcting her.

You mean the burden of proof is on us?

ReachTheLimit · #13 10-11-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Other threads have been deleted or edited. There are some PNAIs who got caught up in this fight, but usually the attack isn't so much at them as around them.

I won't disagree with you there, that is probably true.

OtterXO · #14 10-11-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

If the AI forum is disbanded, I for one, wouldn't be posting here any longer and I would'nt recommend it to anyone else who is looking to AI either. From the dates in the AI forum, there are fewer and fewer posts for AI and it is getting less and less active for AI's. I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

The reason is, there is too much back-stabbing, vindictive behavior on GC. I have been reading through alot of threads, it's better than a book. I saw one thread (on the collegiate side) where a girl's boyfriend had dumped her, and his NEW girlfriend was getting ready to rush in the Spring at another college...she was posting to see if she should call the sorority there because "she couldn't deal with potentially having her as a sister". That's just nothing but high-school BULLSH*T, and I have read the same thing on the AI side. If a member gets into a fight on GC with PNAI, the first thing they say is, "We'll make sure you don't get in."

I just don't understand where that kind of thinking comes from.

Actually, membership in my organization is my business. That pretty much answers everything in your post.

ETA: Drolefille is right though....it has to be pretty extreme for anyone to actually contact HQ.

ReachTheLimit · #15 10-11-2006, 04:36 PM

Considering PNAI's don't reveal the sorority they are considering AI with, you don't know if it's your sorority or not, so I still maintain that it isn't anyone's concern, because ultimately, it's up to the local AA anyway.