Dirty Rush

texgal · #1 09-19-2006, 08:50 PM

If they are buying PNMs dinner, that constitutes as gifts which should be against Panhellenic rules. So it's dirty rushing. Tell the Panhellenic advisor.

UGAalum94 · #2 09-19-2006, 08:55 PM

My school did rush even before classes started. I don't know much about rush rules with deferred rush.

What are the rules about contact before rush begins? Do greek women basically not talk to frosh until rush is over? Is it only a problem if it's a group of women exclusively from one sorority spending time with a group of women likely to go through rush?

The question is tough. I don't think I would have been able to turn in a group that I was interested in joining; I'm also afraid that I wouldn't have had the strength of character to turn down the invitation either.

PeppyGPhiB · #3 09-19-2006, 09:00 PM

I'm playing the Devil's Advocate here, but honestly I think a lot of PNMs would love to be in that spot of being asked to dinner by a sorority they might be interested in. If that were the case, I doubt they'd report it. Most likely to report something like this are PNMs who are not being asked to dinner, and sororities that are playing by the rules.

For those of you that do deferred recruitment, how do you handle dirty rushing at things like parties? It happened on my campus with only a few weeks before the start of classes and rush, so I imagine with a whole semester/two quarters of classes it must be close to unavoidable.

#4 09-19-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I'm playing the Devil's Advocate here, but honestly I think a lot of PNMs would love to be in that spot of being asked to dinner by a sorority they might be interested in. If that were the case, I doubt they'd report it. Most likely to report something like this are PNMs who are not being asked to dinner, and sororities that are playing by the rules.

What's the likelihood that the PNM will even know what dirty rushing is?

If I were the PNM, I'd be flattered if a sorority took me out. Dirty rushing would be the least of my worries if it meant that I'd have a better chance of getting a bid from them.

PeppyGPhiB · #5 09-19-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

What's the likelihood that the PNM will even know what dirty rushing is?

If I were the PNM, I'd be flattered if a sorority took me out. Dirty rushing would be the least of my worries if it meant that I'd have a better chance of getting a bid from them.

Agreed, I would've been flattered too, and would basically think, "It's up to the other sororities to worry about this stuff, not me!"

But, we did actually know what the sorority members were allowed to do and not-do, but only after meeting with our recruitment counselors for the first time. They explained it to us so we wouldn't be confused if the girls that had been so friendly to us one night basically ignored us when we saw them the next morning.

Honestly, the way it happened on my campus when I was there: up until the couple weeks before rush, pretty much everything was fair game. Members would chat girls up at parties, go to places on/off campus that they knew were freshman hangouts, talk to any PNMs in their classes, etc. I think panhellenic has cracked down on this a little, but I'm sure some of this stuff still goes on.

blackngoldengrl · #6 09-19-2006, 09:54 PM

At my school, the deferred rush is until a person is a sophomore. So going to dinner as a freshman is okay. Going to parties with freshmen women or inviting them to a closed party would probably be looked at as dirty rushing, but for the most part that is still allowed technically. I think the official silent period begins on the first day of school or first day back on campus where you could be spotted!
I know for a fact that there was a sorority on my campus that took freshmen to the bars, and most of them were on the same sports team.

ADqtPiMel · #7 09-19-2006, 09:12 PM

My school does deferred recruitment, but we don't have any contact rules. Each sorority does two informal "sprite dates" during first semester, which are big events that any interested PNM can attend (my chapter has done a group fitness class, a midnight movie and a non-alcoholic tailgate before a football game). Additionally, sorority members can invite PNMs out to dinner, etc. on a more informal basis. My younger sister is rushing at my campus, and I know she's been out to dinner and hanging out with members of my chapter.