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08-30-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTRen13
Because of the way I know my extended family is, I wouldn't want to go seeking to wind up in a serious relationship with someone of a race that would offend them. Why would I want to put someone I loved into that kind of situation, having to deal with that? If it just happened that I fell in love with someone who was another race, then of course I would stand up to my family about it, but I'm not going to lie - I am glad that it's not an issue. To have to drag someone through that kind of intense ordeal seems cruel to me.
Does that make sense?
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LOL. Yes and no.
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08-30-2006, 07:39 PM
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LOL. Yes and no. 
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Like I wouldn't go patrolling the streets trying to find someone to date who my grandparents and certain aunts and uncles would never accept, but if I wound up in a relationship with someone who they wouldn't accept, that wouldn't stop me from being with them. It seems really wrong to me to deliberately put someone in that kind of situation. I would be really mad if I started randomly dating an Asian guy (for example) that I met at a bar and it turned out his whole family hated me for being white - it would be like, why would you hit on me in the first place?!? Now, if we started off being friends and it just evolved from there, that's different. I could deal with that, and in that case wouldn't be mad at the Asian guy with the mean family.
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08-30-2006, 07:48 PM
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Like I wouldn't go patrolling the streets trying to find someone to date who my grandparents and certain aunts and uncles would never accept, but if I wound up in a relationship with someone who they wouldn't accept, that wouldn't stop me from being with them. It seems really wrong to me to deliberately put someone in that kind of situation. I would be really mad if I started randomly dating an Asian guy (for example) that I met at a bar and it turned out his whole family hated me for being white - it would be like, why would you hit on me in the first place?!? Now, if we started off being friends and it just evolved from there, that's different. I could deal with that, and in that case wouldn't be mad at the Asian guy with the mean family.
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It could be that he's rebellious.
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08-31-2006, 12:07 PM
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At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking. It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking.
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Some people have posted about this already.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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Being a Christian doesn't mean that people will see ALL people as equal in God's image. Afterall, Christianity (whether that was "real" or "fake" Christianity isn't up to human understanding) has been used for centuries to support genocide and white supremacy.
Even still, being Christian and seeing people as equal in God's image doesn't surpass personal preference, which is what this thread speaks to. There are plenty of Christians (and people of other faiths, since interracial marriage is uncommon in plenty of cultures) who will not date interracially. Their preference is not necessarily based on supremacy or stereotypes.
However, what you deem superficial only means that your personal preferences are different than someone else's. All of our criteria can be superficial when judged by others.
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08-31-2006, 06:02 PM
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Some people have posted about this already.
Being a Christian doesn't mean that people will see ALL people as equal in God's image. Afterall, Christianity (whether that was "real" or "fake" Christianity isn't up to human understanding) has been used for centuries to support genocide and white supremacy.
Even still, being Christian and seeing people as equal in God's image doesn't surpass personal preference, which is what this thread speaks to. There are plenty of Christians (and people of other faiths, since interracial marriage is uncommon in plenty of cultures) who will not date interracially. Their preference is not necessarily based on supremacy or stereotypes.
However, what you deem superficial only means that your personal preferences are different than someone else's. All of our criteria can be superficial when judged by others.
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In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
And,by the way, Christians are sinners too and fall into the same muddle as others, falling into the same patterns of cultural assimilation as others--the history of Christianity in this country reflects this. But, according to St. Paul, what is most important and determinative for marriage is not race, ethnicity or culture but whether the prospective spouse is en Kyrio ("in the LORD"), that is, what is most important is that person's relationship to Christ and community of faith in baptism. On a more personal note, whenever I've prayed about this issue in regards to a prospective girlfriend, God has let me know about women who were not acceptable. But it was never based on race but on a women's character and spirituality. This is something that has made a difference in my life experientially, and has helped me to see this issue in the way I do. Yes, we do have different preferences but race should be a non-issue.
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08-31-2006, 06:20 PM
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In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
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The EVOLUTIONARY basis for selecting partners is centered around things that don't necessarily make for good marriages - I don't really know where you're going with this . . .
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08-31-2006, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
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You didn't place this discussion in a broader context and I disagree with the rest of your assessment.
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08-31-2006, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking. It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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What do you see in all of this that is superficial? I see a bunch of people talking about their personal preferences......
Just because I have a particular interest in blonde blue eyed white girls doesn't mean that I don't see others as equals or think less of them.....and it sure as hell doesn't make me any less of a Christian.
Go preach to someone else......
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08-31-2006, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking. It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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Let's be sure to note here that it is not necessary for your heart to be "cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God" or for you to be a Christian to see all people "for who they are."
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08-31-2006, 04:54 PM
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Like I wouldn't go patrolling the streets trying to find someone to date who my grandparents and certain aunts and uncles would never accept, but if I wound up in a relationship with someone who they wouldn't accept, that wouldn't stop me from being with them. It seems really wrong to me to deliberately put someone in that kind of situation. I would be really mad if I started randomly dating an Asian guy (for example) that I met at a bar and it turned out his whole family hated me for being white - it would be like, why would you hit on me in the first place?!? Now, if we started off being friends and it just evolved from there, that's different. I could deal with that, and in that case wouldn't be mad at the Asian guy with the mean family.
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