Greek interacial relationships

preciousjeni · #1 08-29-2006, 02:50 PM

Why would a family want to impose shame anyway? It doesn't make sense to me. Is this an issue that requires some intervention on their part? If so, why?

It's not just "their personal choice" when they impose it on someone else.

macallan25 · #2 08-29-2006, 03:07 PM

Its obviously hard to post on the thoughts and beliefs of a certain family. I know that my family would not look too highly upon me if I brought home a girl to marry that wasn't white. It has nothing to do with prejudice or dislike.........it has more to do with the fact that I was raised...and they were raised in an environment that tought that it was far more proper and respectable to marry within your own race. I think the highly conservative social setting that we live in plays a part as well.

I'm not saying that they would treat the girl with disdain or disgust....they would definitely tell me though in private that they didn't approve.

valkyrie · #3 08-29-2006, 03:48 PM

Saying that you'd feel shamed or be ostracized by friends or family if you dated someone of a different race doesn't make you racist. It might indicate that your friends or family could be racist, and it makes you a pussy if you'd actually change your behavior based on that.

preciousjeni · #4 08-29-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

It has nothing to do with prejudice or dislike.........it has more to do with the fact that I was raised...and they were raised in an environment that tought that it was far more proper and respectable to marry within your own race. I think the highly conservative social setting that we live in plays a part as well.

What on earth else does it have to do with if not "prejudice or dislike"?? Proper and respectable? I must say that entire line of thinking disgusts me.

valkyrie · #5 08-29-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni

What on earth else does it have to do with if not "prejudice or dislike"?? Proper and respectable? I must say that entire line of thinking disgusts me.

What I understand him to be saying is that because of how he was raised, it wouldn't even OCCUR to him in normal life (as in not just talking on the internet) to date a woman who isn't white. I think this is different from someone (referred to in an earlier post as "pussy") who would change his behavior based on the disapproval of friends and family. That person would WANT to date someone of a different race and wouldn't, based on the judgment of others (inherently lame, IMHO). Macallan would never even have the idea to date a non-white woman. It's just his preference, based on how he was raised. His phrasing here is somewhat inelegant, but I really don't see the problem.

I have a very hard time getting upset about the dating preferences of others. It's not hurting anyone, and everyone should be free to date whomever he or she wishes, right? I personally wouldn't discount someone because of race, but I'd discount lots of people because of religion, and I don't care if anyone thinks that's offensive.

preciousjeni · #6 08-29-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

What I understand him to be saying is that because of how he was raised, it wouldn't even OCCUR to him in normal life (as in not just talking on the internet) to date a woman who isn't white. I think this is different from someone (referred to in an earlier post as "pussy") who would change his behavior based on the disapproval of friends and family. That person would WANT to date someone of a different race and wouldn't, based on the judgment of others (inherently lame, IMHO). Macallan would never even have the idea to date a non-white woman. It's just his preference, based on how he was raised. His phrasing here is somewhat inelegant, but I really don't see the problem.

Ah, I'm with you. It's the reaction to family and friends that concerned me about the other post.

macallan25 · #7 08-29-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

What I understand him to be saying is that because of how he was raised, it wouldn't even OCCUR to him in normal life (as in not just talking on the internet) to date a woman who isn't white. I think this is different from someone (referred to in an earlier post as "pussy") who would change his behavior based on the disapproval of friends and family. That person would WANT to date someone of a different race and wouldn't, based on the judgment of others (inherently lame, IMHO). Macallan would never even have the idea to date a non-white woman. It's just his preference, based on how he was raised. His phrasing here is somewhat inelegant, but I really don't see the problem.

I have a very hard time getting upset about the dating preferences of others. It's not hurting anyone, and everyone should be free to date whomever he or she wishes, right? I personally wouldn't discount someone because of race, but I'd discount lots of people because of religion, and I don't care if anyone thinks that's offensive.

Thanks. Yeah, my post was a little off when I came back to read it. I posted during the middle of class....thoughts were kind of all over the place. I included the prejudice/dislike part simply because I know how some people think on here....and I really didn't feel like having my family called racist/prejudice or some other name because of how they felt about relationships/marriage. Just thought I would add that they were neither of the two at all.

PreciousJeni - I'm sorry that the fact that I was raised thinking that marrying within your own race is proper and respectable disgusts you. There are many things that disgust me.......that are far worse than this.

preciousjeni · #8 08-29-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

PreciousJeni - I'm sorry that the fact that I was raised thinking that marrying within your own race is proper and respectable disgusts you. There are many things that disgust me.......that are far worse than this.

The problem is that you're suggesting that not marrying within the "race" is improper and not respectable which, of course, is ridiculous and offensive. But, hey, at least you're sticking by your own convictions.

macallan25 · #9 08-29-2006, 06:52 PM

I'm glad you can take around sentences and skew them to make it sound highly negative.

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm not commenting on the grand scheme of things. I could care less who people choose to marry no matter the skin color. I am absolutely not going to judge them, no matter who they are.

I am talking about the wishes of my family considering things such as where we live, where I will more than likely live, our social setting, etc. I don't see how anyone would find that "ridiculous and offensive." Its a personal choice. Who are you to judge?

DSTCHAOS · #10 08-30-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni

The problem is that you're suggesting that not marrying within the "race" is improper and not respectable which, of course, is ridiculous and offensive.

It's only offensive if you disagree. He didn't say that nonwhites are subhumans or anything like that.

It all boils down to how seriously you take this stuff and whether you're searching for something to be offended by. You chose to click on this thread knowing that "interracial relationships" would prompt differing opinions to be expressed.

KAY10 · #11 09-09-2006, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

What I understand him to be saying is that because of how he was raised, it wouldn't even OCCUR to him in normal life (as in not just talking on the internet) to date a woman who isn't white. I think this is different from someone (referred to in an earlier post as "pussy") who would change his behavior based on the disapproval of friends and family. That person would WANT to date someone of a different race and wouldn't, based on the judgment of others (inherently lame, IMHO). Macallan would never even have the idea to date a non-white woman. It's just his preference, based on how he was raised. His phrasing here is somewhat inelegant, but I really don't see the problem.

I have a very hard time getting upset about the dating preferences of others. It's not hurting anyone, and everyone should be free to date whomever he or she wishes, right? I personally wouldn't discount someone because of race, but I'd discount lots of people because of religion, and I don't care if anyone thinks that's offensive.

I agree with the religion thing. Faith is very important for me too.