Greek interacial relationships

KAY10 · #1 08-28-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

How in the hell was his comment racist? Some of you morons throw around that term so loosely its ridiculous. You act as if its the same as calling someone an idiot.

Why is it SOOOOO wrong of him to say that he would be ostracized if he dated a black girl? Many social circles look down upon interracial dating....just as i'm sure some Greeks would too.....I know it is that way in many parts of the South. Looking down upon interracial dating doesn't make you a racist. Many people are brought up with the notion that it isn't proper.......and there is nothing wrong with that.

rac-ism /-rey-siz-uhm/ :

1.) hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
2.) a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

I guess the thing I can't figure out is why is it wrong or looked down upon just because of the color of someones skin. We're all people. It just doesn't make any sense. Don't get me wrong, I'm guilty of it too. But it still makes no sense. I would be kind of ashamed to bring a white woman around a big family function and call her my woman. Don't ask me why, I just would.

PKPILZ003 · #2 08-29-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KAY10

I would be kind of ashamed to bring a white woman around a big family function and call her my woman. Don't ask me why, I just would.

You'd be ashamed? WOW! If you loved her, what's the SHAME in that?

Hey, those are your feelings and we can't take them away from you. We can mock them and wonder what the heck is going on, but we can't take them away.

macallan25 · #3 08-29-2006, 02:43 PM

If you can't see why he would be ashamed or feel slightly awkward...perhaps you need a swift kick into reality. It has nothing to do with love.....it has to do with the fact that his family has obvioulsy kept it within their own race and not married outside of the black community.
There isn't anything wrong with that. Its their personal choice....why would you mock them?

preciousjeni · #4 08-29-2006, 02:50 PM

Why would a family want to impose shame anyway? It doesn't make sense to me. Is this an issue that requires some intervention on their part? If so, why?

It's not just "their personal choice" when they impose it on someone else.

macallan25 · #5 08-29-2006, 03:07 PM

Its obviously hard to post on the thoughts and beliefs of a certain family. I know that my family would not look too highly upon me if I brought home a girl to marry that wasn't white. It has nothing to do with prejudice or dislike.........it has more to do with the fact that I was raised...and they were raised in an environment that tought that it was far more proper and respectable to marry within your own race. I think the highly conservative social setting that we live in plays a part as well.

I'm not saying that they would treat the girl with disdain or disgust....they would definitely tell me though in private that they didn't approve.

valkyrie · #6 08-29-2006, 03:48 PM

Saying that you'd feel shamed or be ostracized by friends or family if you dated someone of a different race doesn't make you racist. It might indicate that your friends or family could be racist, and it makes you a pussy if you'd actually change your behavior based on that.

preciousjeni · #7 08-29-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

It has nothing to do with prejudice or dislike.........it has more to do with the fact that I was raised...and they were raised in an environment that tought that it was far more proper and respectable to marry within your own race. I think the highly conservative social setting that we live in plays a part as well.

What on earth else does it have to do with if not "prejudice or dislike"?? Proper and respectable? I must say that entire line of thinking disgusts me.

valkyrie · #8 08-29-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni

What on earth else does it have to do with if not "prejudice or dislike"?? Proper and respectable? I must say that entire line of thinking disgusts me.

What I understand him to be saying is that because of how he was raised, it wouldn't even OCCUR to him in normal life (as in not just talking on the internet) to date a woman who isn't white. I think this is different from someone (referred to in an earlier post as "pussy") who would change his behavior based on the disapproval of friends and family. That person would WANT to date someone of a different race and wouldn't, based on the judgment of others (inherently lame, IMHO). Macallan would never even have the idea to date a non-white woman. It's just his preference, based on how he was raised. His phrasing here is somewhat inelegant, but I really don't see the problem.

I have a very hard time getting upset about the dating preferences of others. It's not hurting anyone, and everyone should be free to date whomever he or she wishes, right? I personally wouldn't discount someone because of race, but I'd discount lots of people because of religion, and I don't care if anyone thinks that's offensive.

PKPILZ003 · #9 08-29-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

If you can't see why he would be ashamed or feel slightly awkward...perhaps you need a swift kick into reality. It has nothing to do with love.....it has to do with the fact that his family has obvioulsy kept it within their own race and not married outside of the black community.
There isn't anything wrong with that. Its their personal choice....why would you mock them?

My kick into reality tells me that my white wife's (of 9 years) family didn't want her dating or marrying me, to the point where they threatened to cut her off if she did - she called their bluff, because we love each other and we thought that we could make it work. My kick into reality tells me that my family thought I was crazy for dating a white girl, until they met her and fell in love with her like I did. My kick into reality came when my mother sat me down and told me that she'd rather had me dating a black girl, but, "If I loved her, she would too."

That's reality

I mock him because he started this thread and then came back and said that he would be ashamed - ashamed of what? falling in love with someone? if he, or anyone else is that insecure about who he is and how he feels about someone, then they shouldn't be bringing them home, much less dating them. I have no problem with you, mac, or anyone else's personal preference about who you date - when you bring shame into it, however, it says to ME that you don't feel that they are worthy of equality in YOUR eyes.

Lastly, mac, if you fell in love with a woman of another race (I know that's not your preference, but hear me out) and you had to quash that becuase of what your family thought, then you weren't in love to begin with and you have no idea what it really means.

DSTCHAOS · #10 08-29-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PKPILZ003

That's reality

I mock him because he started this thread and then came back and said that he would be ashamed - ashamed of what? falling in love with someone? if he, or anyone else is that insecure about who he is and how he feels about someone, then they shouldn't be bringing them home, much less dating them. I have no problem with you, mac, or anyone else's personal preference about who you date - when you bring shame into it, however, it says to ME that you don't feel that they are worthy of equality in YOUR eyes.

Lastly, mac, if you fell in love with a woman of another race (I know that's not your preference, but hear me out) and you had to quash that becuase of what your family thought, then you weren't in love to begin with and you have no idea what it really means.

Actually, "reality" is that what you posted is YOUR reality.

This is all about social construction. We create this stuff and give it meaning and importance. What makes you tick doesn't have to make others tick.

I agree with the rest of your post although black men and starang21 have always been and always will be more than enough for me.

PKPILZ003 · #11 08-29-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Actually, "reality" is that what you posted is YOUR reality.

This is all about social construction. We create this stuff and give it meaning and importance. What makes you tick doesn't have to make others tick.

I agree with the rest of your post although black men and starang21 have always been and always will be more than enough for me.

You are correct - I said that my reality was just that - my kick into reality.

This is why I love your posts - you are always right on the pulse of this board.

Keep Smiling

DSTCHAOS · #12 08-29-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PKPILZ003

You are correct - I said that my reality was just that - my kick into reality.

As long as everyone knows that "reality" will always be subjective.

starang21 · #13 08-29-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

starang21 has always been and always will be more than enough for me.

shhhh......

*blushes*

BabyPiNK_FL · #14 08-29-2006, 11:56 PM

My boyfriend who is a TKE is white hispanic (Colombian) and I am half jamaican half black American.

dst2004 · #15 09-02-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PKPILZ003

My kick into reality tells me that my white wife's (of 9 years) family didn't want her dating or marrying me, to the point where they threatened to cut her off if she did - she called their bluff, because we love each other and we thought that we could make it work. My kick into reality tells me that my family thought I was crazy for dating a white girl, until they met her and fell in love with her like I did. My kick into reality came when my mother sat me down and told me that she'd rather had me dating a black girl, but, "If I loved her, she would too."

That's reality

I mock him because he started this thread and then came back and said that he would be ashamed - ashamed of what? falling in love with someone? if he, or anyone else is that insecure about who he is and how he feels about someone, then they shouldn't be bringing them home, much less dating them. I have no problem with you, mac, or anyone else's personal preference about who you date - when you bring shame into it, however, it says to ME that you don't feel that they are worthy of equality in YOUR eyes.

Lastly, mac, if you fell in love with a woman of another race (I know that's not your preference, but hear me out) and you had to quash that becuase of what your family thought, then you weren't in love to begin with and you have no idea what it really means.

I feel you, sweetheart.