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Old 08-21-2006, 03:24 PM
Prunetacos Prunetacos is offline
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Swords and Muskets and Pledges - Cool!!

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I was always up for a classic duel between pledges. Either with swords or black powder muskets at a distance of 35 paces.
Rifled, or unrifled muskets? Did you get to put on a Redcoat, or wear a coonskin cap? I hope nobody dressed up as Santa Anna.

Remember the Alamo!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:25 PM
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It is amazing how assumptions are made isnt it?

A well rounded Chapter has many from various fields dont they?

If hazing is invlolved as DeltAlum said who loses if they are caught?

Yours,, Mine, and ours are the ones who lose.

Laff while you may, but it does and will happen and can be seen so many times over on GC!

The escalation of costs because of R M insurance raises the cost of being in a Greek Organization and few PNMs will feel like they can,t afford it and or won't join.


Fun and games now, but when You anyone of You Graduate, why do you go back to Your School? For The School or Your Brothers and Sisters?
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:36 PM
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It depends on what is being done, hazing wise. You might be right about the costs for new members and how it may be a deterrent......but I really can't comment on that because paying dues.....no matter the cost is really not a big deal for my family.

I'll go back to my school to support athletics and for any huge SAE events that they may have in Austin.....such as founders day. I'll support UT much more from a standpoint of being in the Texas Exes Alumni Association than I will from being an SAE. Yeah, i'll make yearly donations to the chapter and i'll go to tailgates with other Alumni and my pledge brothers......but to be honest.......when I am middle aged and have a career.....being in a fraternity isn't going to be the highlight of my life or something that I make a point to really keep up with....aside from the activities that I mentioned. There comes a time when you need to move on. Every man in my family is Greek.....and they all have felt the same way.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:34 PM
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Brother Tex;
Is this the record of your chapter?:
Sigma Alpha Epsilon Hazing Suspension Suspension through Fall 2005, Probation through Fall 2006

http://www.utexas.edu/student/regist.../app/appf.html

http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/gle...n-Summer05.pdf

If so, just what happened from your side?

And remember what happened to my chapter when they not only ignored their first problem, they just kept right on going......down for the count.........
http://www.ups.edu/x4812.xml
And hazing was almost the least of their problems........

P.S.: Just found these on the Princeton Review new rankings of 2006-2007 Best 361 Schools:
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=26 #1

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=34 #8

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=28 #13

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=30 #2

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=32 #3

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...ID=1&topicID=4 #6

Does anyone there get an education? LOL ;>D

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Old 08-22-2006, 12:49 AM
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Tom,

I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:38 AM
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Tom,

I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
Shiner-It took me years before I placed my school at an even level with my Greek life. Perhaps due to the anti-Greek Admin when I first started-now very different. To each their own.......
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...=1&intbucketid=

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Old 08-22-2006, 06:09 PM
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Tom,

I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
That is an intersting perspetive.

Your School Letters mean more to You than Your Brothers of Your Chapter or Fraternity?

If My Chapter was not there, I would never go back!

It is also one of the strongest Schools in it's Division.

But, if I go back to all of the games who in the heck would I know?

Who would I tailgate with and talk to?

I go back and do all of the above with My Brothers!

Oh, I also go back over to Arrrowhead, Home of KC Cheifs for the Fall Classic of The Pitt and NWMoUn.

How many Div. schools like mine play in NFL Stadiums?
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:42 PM
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Tom, notice I said national fraternity. If for some reason I ever had to make a choice between my chapter and my school, I guess I'd pick my chapter, but that would never happen as the two are so deeply intertwined. Supporting Auburn is basically one of our central core values, and I think I speak for everyone in my chapter in that I'd side with Auburn before my national HQ. Its tough to describe.

As to Jon, I'm not sure what "UG" is but I go to UGA, yes. I didn't graduate from here however.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:24 PM
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If you are questioning the academic integrity of the University of Texas.....then you must be severely out of the loop.

According to US News:
1.) Top 15 ranked Engineering School, (Number 1 in Petroleum Engineering)
2.) Top 15 Law School
3.) Top 20 Medical School
4.) Top 20 Business School
5.) Top 50 National University (America's Best Colleges)

The incident with SAE a couple years back, while none of your concern, was dealt with fairly easily, with little problems. Don't go by what you read on a website....thats all I am going to say.

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Brother Tex;
Is this the record of your chapter?:
Sigma Alpha Epsilon Hazing Suspension Suspension through Fall 2005, Probation through Fall 2006

http://www.utexas.edu/student/regist.../app/appf.html

http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/gle...n-Summer05.pdf

If so, just what happened from your side?

And remember what happened to my chapter when they not only ignored their first problem, they just kept right on going......down for the count.........
http://www.ups.edu/x4812.xml
And hazing was almost the least of their problems........

P.S.: Just found these on the Princeton Review new rankings of 2006-2007 Best 361 Schools:
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=26 #1

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=34 #8

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=28 #13

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=30 #2

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...D=3&topicID=32 #3

http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...ID=1&topicID=4 #6

Does anyone there get an education? LOL ;>D
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:41 PM
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If you are questioning the academic integrity of the University of Texas.....then you must be severely out of the loop.

According to US News:
1.) Top 15 ranked Engineering School, (Number 1 in Petroleum Engineering)
2.) Top 15 Law School
3.) Top 20 Medical School
4.) Top 20 Business School
5.) Top 50 National University (America's Best Colleges)

The incident with SAE a couple years back, while none of your concern, was dealt with fairly easily, with little problems. Don't go by what you read on a website....thats all I am going to say.
"That web site" is an official UT page. Which is one of the reasons I asked you to explain your side of the story.

And we all are products of our life experiences. Our beliefs, our opinions, our actions et al.

If one looks at posting in GC, one can break down into almost two groups what kind of Greek life each poster had.

And yes, Greek life and the rest of School exprerinces are only part of one's life.

And your list is mostly about the Grad schools, which are a bit different from under grad.......

And to be fair here is the link for my school:
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...1023493&LTID=1

BTB: Back in the day, UPS was listed in the top ten ( IIRC top five ) party schools by either Playboy or Esquire Mags.
Things change and evolve....as do people....life experience......

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:23 PM
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Are you kidding me man? Read number 5 please. Hell, look it up. The University of Texas...is a Top 50 National University and has been in the top 50 pretty much every year on the list of America's Best Colleges. Yes, the grad school is phenomenal......so is the undergrad...which is why I posted the overall school ranking at the end of the list.

I really can't believe you are still trying to present some kind of argument.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:49 PM
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Does anyone there get an education? LOL ;>D
Be kind. My alma mater is on four of those six.
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