Katrina, and the UN

shinerbock · #1 07-30-2006, 03:10 PM

Regardless of how people became poor, what do you propose we do about it? I don't blame poor people entirely, I realize they have obstacles. Of course, it can be overcome with the right amount of effort, but I know they sometimes have the deck stacked against them. However, regardless, I still don't see it as the government's job. The blame on people in New Orleans didn't really begin until they began to blame their government. What happened was a tragedy. We'll learn from it, but when I hear the black community place the fault on the administration, it makes me less sympathetic.

f8nacn · #2 07-30-2006, 03:16 PM

I believe that there are already (as mentioned by another poster) programs available that would enable a person to establish a better way of life for them. It's up to those people to access such programs. And I agree blaming the government for a lack of programs is not just nor does it have merit.

However, with Hurricane Katrina, I wouldn't necessarily cast total blame on the government either. I believe they made some mistakes but I can't blame them for TOTAL misfortune and tragedy! It wasn't just the black community placing blame on the administration, it was also caucasians who were affected as well. You saw a predominance of black people; however, there were others in the mix. Because I'm sure Slidell has a heavy caucasian population and not black.

shinerbock · #3 07-30-2006, 03:27 PM

Well, I'm sure white people were frustrated as well, but its not the individuals who were involved that really irks me. Its the disconnected folks, like the NAACP, and other organizations who acted as though Bush and co. made a decision to abandon the city.

f8nacn · #4 07-30-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, I'm sure white people were frustrated as well, but its not the individuals who were involved that really irks me. Its the disconnected folks, like the NAACP, and other organizations who acted as though Bush and co. made a decision to abandon the city.

So are you upset because someone gave them (NAACP) the authority to speak on their (the black community) behalf? And no one spoke up for "caucasians"?

shinerbock · #5 07-30-2006, 03:39 PM

Well, I wouldnt say upset, annoyed. I don't think much at all is the fault of the government, but if people in the city blame them, thats fine. I mean, people in stressful situation need to vent, I understand grief. However, it was the political orgs getting involved, the DNC, the NAACP, that was ridiculous. They know the role of the government in such situations, yet still blasted the administration to score some political points.

f8nacn · #6 07-30-2006, 03:48 PM

Which didn't work because if they truly had a problem with the government...I'm sure Nagin wouldn't have been reelected on the local level.

shinerbock · #7 07-30-2006, 03:49 PM

I think thats a little unrealistic though. Obviously the NOLA black community would probably me more forgiving of a black democrat than a white republican who they already hate.

macallan25 · #8 07-30-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn

I believe that there are already (as mentioned by another poster) programs available that would enable a person to establish a better way of life for them. It's up to those people to access such programs. And I agree blaming the government for a lack of programs is not just nor does it have merit.

However, with Hurricane Katrina, I wouldn't necessarily cast total blame on the government either. I believe they made some mistakes but I can't blame them for TOTAL misfortune and tragedy! It wasn't just the black community placing blame on the administration, it was also caucasians who were affected as well. You saw a predominance of black people; however, there were others in the mix. Because I'm sure Slidell has a heavy caucasian population and not black.

There is no doubt in my mind that there were white people who were upset and spoke out about the breakdown of the state and local goverment and the fact that the FEMA director was a moron. But, you didn't see it on the same level as you saw the outcry from the black community.....who pretty much blamed everything on Bush. The black community loved Nagin, and I don't think they took the time to realize that he was at fault probobly the most out of anyone.

f8nacn · #9 07-30-2006, 07:39 PM

Of course any possibility to make the Black community look idiotic and like free-loaders, the media will jump on that...I'm sure there were complaints and the like by our counterparts.

shinerbock · #10 07-30-2006, 08:36 PM

Sigh, or perhaps that stuff really happened.