Katrina, and the UN

f8nacn · #1 07-29-2006, 08:35 PM

People don't have health insurance, people don't have life insurance, people don't have flood insurance...all for one reason or another! Yet why are we being judgmental or hard on people when we don't know their personal circumstances!

shinerbock · #2 07-29-2006, 08:39 PM

Because we think its ridiculous to hear about how the government failed them.

f8nacn · #3 07-29-2006, 09:23 PM

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Because we think its ridiculous to hear about how the government failed them.

And for some they have...that is their reality...

shinerbock · #4 07-29-2006, 09:26 PM

How have they failed them?

f8nacn · #5 07-29-2006, 09:29 PM

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How have they failed them?

I said for some they have - that is THEIR reality! Not MY reality!

shinerbock · #6 07-29-2006, 09:31 PM

So what you're saying is, because some people blame the government, the government has failed them? The government rarely fails people in reality, because its not their role to begin with.

f8nacn · #7 07-29-2006, 09:45 PM

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So what you're saying is, because some people blame the government, the government has failed them? The government rarely fails people in reality, because its not their role to begin with.

So you think the government is innocent in all things? I don't think so. I do support President Bush; however, he has made some mistakes, as with every President and/or government entity! Certain politicians make people beleive what they want to believe and then in turn make choices contrary to what they've agreed to. Thus the life of a politician.

AKA_Monet · #8 08-04-2006, 04:15 PM

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How have they failed them?

Shinerbock-

I really am unsure where you are coming from with posting this thread and what you are really trying to ask.

Are you upset about the article on Fox.com? Or what it says? You know that Fox posted this kind of article to incite chit and piss folks off--a usual way of propagandizing folks or a classic "divide and conquer" method. It's like they are making folks choose sides--NOW!!! And IMO, this lunacy will worsen the closer the US gets toward the November, 2006 election--barring anything else "globally" happening to the US after the summer--which is very impropable...

All I got to say is don't believe the hype...

We've got, ALL OF THE UNITED STATES, and Bush and co., larger problems than chit that happenend ~1 year ago... Dude in N. Korea is lightin' up missles, Iran is about to lose it's dayum mind--I don't think we can afford to rehash that drama...

IMO, if there is one more "disaster issue" during the Bush presidency (9-11 and Katrina), then some VERY powerful people are gonna start getting involved--now, that worries me... I mean, I'm no fan of Bush, but the man can only take so much drama. And some of this isht is tough to deal with as a leader, how does on reconcile it, personally? Most folks would cut and run and Mr. Bush as stayed into the mix of things, seeing it through--yeah, he could do better--but nunna us are in his shoes... I guess, my thinking would be, can't we all just get along, dayum!!! Can't we just bring back peace-pipes and smoke it? Why do we have to deal with leaders of rogue countries that refuse to be medicated? The US has enough drama within its borders and the chit is about to be worse for some groups of people... And, it ain't like chit in the US is all that tight right now... Gas prices are atrocious... Food prices are about to be crazy... Folks are gonna starve for the basic necessities that were conquered after the depression... Do we really need to relive that history?

I think that is where some folks are coming from.

shinerbock · #9 08-04-2006, 04:38 PM

I was asking that about how the administration has failed so many people, as they claim. I agree with you that we have bigger problems to worry about, and that the administration has a lot on its plate, more than than many have.

About Fox, I don't really see them having a "divide and conquer" attitude. I mean, Fox is obviously conservative, so the UN condemning America is something conservatives wanna hear about. Likewise, MSNBC and CNN are liberal media groups. It really annoys me when people accuse Republicans of trying to divide the country. I think some republican stances are naturally devisive, but I don't think that is the purpose. However, I think the Democrats do make a point to divide, most often by attacking the administration at every chance. Now even if you disagree with Bush, you should admit that some of what the media and the DNC blames on him really has nothing to do with his presidency. The Democrats have a vested interested in breaking apart American unity on issues. It is paying dividends right now for them in the polls.

DeltAlum · #10 08-04-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I was asking that about how the administration has failed so many people, as they claim. I agree with you that we have bigger problems to worry about, and that the administration has a lot on its plate, more than than many have.

About Fox, I don't really see them having a "divide and conquer" attitude. I mean, Fox is obviously conservative, so the UN condemning America is something conservatives wanna hear about. Likewise, MSNBC and CNN are liberal media groups. It really annoys me when people accuse Republicans of trying to divide the country. I think some republican stances are naturally devisive, but I don't think that is the purpose. However, I think the Democrats do make a point to divide, most often by attacking the administration at every chance. Now even if you disagree with Bush, you should admit that some of what the media and the DNC blames on him really has nothing to do with his presidency. The Democrats have a vested interested in breaking apart American unity on issues. It is paying dividends right now for them in the polls.

I think you've just described politics. But the finger points both ways.

AKA_Monet · #11 08-04-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I was asking that about how the administration has failed so many people, as they claim. I agree with you that we have bigger problems to worry about, and that the administration has a lot on its plate, more than than many have.

About Fox, I don't really see them having a "divide and conquer" attitude. I mean, Fox is obviously conservative, so the UN condemning America is something conservatives wanna hear about. Likewise, MSNBC and CNN are liberal media groups. It really annoys me when people accuse Republicans of trying to divide the country. I think some republican stances are naturally devisive, but I don't think that is the purpose. However, I think the Democrats do make a point to divide, most often by attacking the administration at every chance. Now even if you disagree with Bush, you should admit that some of what the media and the DNC blames on him really has nothing to do with his presidency. The Democrats have a vested interested in breaking apart American unity on issues. It is paying dividends right now for them in the polls.

The thing is Fox posted this article on their website I agree, a condeming UN report concerns most conservatives and what they may want to hear about. By why do the conservatives give a rat's ass what the UN human right's commission says? Who cares? The U.N. as a whole pulls only so much power... It is really the National Security Council that has the "pull", but that hasn't stopped some countries from acting "buckwild"--they are still dropping bombs on places they ought not be doing, like Hezabollah on Israel... It is a matter of time when Hezabollah slips in just ONE nuke device to Israel--unless that chit can be maintained and Israel flexes like they need to be doing... But that's my opinion and I could be wrong...

And I think both parties, republicans and democrats, ride on the ability to divide people. Just republicans are better at doing it than democrats. Democrats can only do it to a point unless they want to piss off the constituency they are trying to pimp votes out of. Republicans are too self-righteous to pimp for votes...

My thing is let the games begin... We are in for a trip to Congress unlike that seen in a long time... There will be gained seats and lost seats--specially in the senate. If it goes all to one party again, there will be an underground activity that the Secret Police--I mean Homeland Security--would haveta shutdown.