Katrina, and the UN

macallan25 · #1 07-29-2006, 03:44 PM

No, I don't have a heart for lazy, ignorant people that stayed in New Orleans in their shanties after being continuously warned that the hurricane had reached catastrophic proportions. Then, when their lives were destroyed by the worst natural disaster in US history.....they take the easy cop out and blame Bush or the US Government instead of looking at their own mayor and governor whom didn't provide for a mandatory evacuation until 19 hours before landfall and didn't fix the inaduquate levees which caused 80% flooding in the city, even though civil engineers had warned them in 1986 that a massive hurrincane would render them useless.

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Originally Posted by f8nacn

From reading the article it just expressed the UN's findings after being asked to review the circumstances during and after the events of Hurricane Katrina. Only people who have NO heart would say that the article was completely IDIOTIC! What if you were in that situation, how would feel if you weren't provided with the basic privilege of being able to leave your home! We have so much to say about blacks and poor people without walking in their shoes for a day!

All the UN can do is make a recommendation or suggestion (as stated by the article) - they can't force or MAKE the US do anything.

And in what way is the UN biting the hand that is feeding them! Personally, I definitely disagree.

f8nacn · #2 07-29-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

No, I don't have a heart for lazy, ignorant people that stayed in New Orleans in their shanties after being continuously warned that the hurricane had reached catastrophic proportions. Then, when their lives were destroyed by the worst natural disaster in US history.....they take the easy cop out and blame Bush or the US Government instead of looking at their own mayor and governor whom didn't provide for a mandatory evacuation until 19 hours before landfall and didn't fix the inaduquate levees which caused 80% flooding in the city, even though civil engineers had warned them in 1986 that a massive hurrincane would render them useless.

I do agree with you that the blame and anger was cast on President Bush without looking at the immediate persons in charge (i.e., Mayor and Governor); however, I will not chastise a group of people with limited access to funds, transportation, etc. I will not call them ignorant or any derogatory name that I've witnessed from others. No one knows the circumstances and what TRULY went on despite what the media portrays! I guess would have confidence in my leaders if they have provided a place of shelter (i.e., the superdome, convention center, etc.,) that those places will be just that, a means for me to escape without leaving the city. They had confidence that they would be safe there...it turns out it was quite the contrary....yet that is known looking back, not when faced with difficult decisions. How many of us would willing leave our homes, our tradition, our heritage? Most of us would wait or even attempt to ride it out because we don't want to leave that which we value.

shinerbock · #3 07-29-2006, 06:51 PM

From what I've heard, some of the people in the superdome were more dangerous than the storm outside...

f8nacn · #4 07-29-2006, 07:14 PM

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From what I've heard, some of the people in the superdome were more dangerous than the storm outside...

And you believe everything that you hear on the media. Alot of that was exagerated.

macallan25 · #5 07-29-2006, 08:20 PM

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They had confidence that they would be safe there...it turns out it was quite the contrary....yet that is known looking back, not when faced with difficult decisions. How many of us would willing leave our homes, our tradition, our heritage? Most of us would wait or even attempt to ride it out because we don't want to leave that which we value.

No....sorry, but if the national weather service comes on TV three to four days prior to a hurricane of astronomical proportions slamming into my home on the Gulf Coast.....I am moving my family out of there without question. Don't be an idiot. I think most of us would sacrifice a home and traditions so as to not be killed. I can take my insurance and build a new home.

f8nacn · #6 07-29-2006, 08:28 PM

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No....sorry, but if the national weather service comes on TV three to four days prior to a hurricane of astronomical proportions slamming into my home on the Gulf Coast.....I am moving my family out of there without question. Don't be an idiot. I think most of us would sacrifice a home and traditions so as to not be killed. I can take my insurance and build a new home.

And how many of them actually had insurance...let alone flood insurance? And to quote you - don't be an idiot!

shinerbock · #7 07-29-2006, 08:32 PM

If you don't have insurance, that sucks. Its nobody's fault but yours. However, staying in town will have no effect on whether your house gets destroyed or not.

f8nacn · #8 07-29-2006, 08:35 PM

People don't have health insurance, people don't have life insurance, people don't have flood insurance...all for one reason or another! Yet why are we being judgmental or hard on people when we don't know their personal circumstances!

shinerbock · #9 07-29-2006, 08:39 PM

Because we think its ridiculous to hear about how the government failed them.

macallan25 · #10 07-29-2006, 10:15 PM

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And how many of them actually had insurance...let alone flood insurance? And to quote you - don't be an idiot!

I'm not being an idiot. You claimed that "most of us wouldn't leave our homes or heritage".....and I refuted your claim. I don't know how many did, nor is it my concern. Frankly, I wouldn't live on the gulf coast, let alone somewhere below sea level on the gulf coast if I didn't have the means to have something as basic as flood insurance.

f8nacn · #11 07-29-2006, 10:29 PM

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I'm not being an idiot. You claimed that "most of us wouldn't leave our homes or heritage".....and I refuted your claim. I don't know how many did, nor is it my concern. Frankly, I wouldn't live on the gulf coast, let alone somewhere below sea level on the gulf coast if I didn't have the means to have something as basic as flood insurance.

That's definitely your choice! But how many people have the choice to move from a place that they were born (without the financial means)?