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Old 06-15-2006, 11:38 AM
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i don't care one way or the other, b/c if i had a bike, i'd wear a helmet.
That's the way I feel too.
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:01 PM
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We have laws for so many things regarding motorcycles and cars. If I want I should be able to drive a 5MPG car, pollute the world, remove crumple zones and other safety standards that the world has enforced on manufacturers, and if my SUV hits another car it should allow me to ride over their hood and decapitate the other driver.

Some of you just amaze me with the way you think.

Oh and to the strange girl from the strange school, bikers are annoying. Get off the damn road. Use a sidewalk. Or better yet go somewhere with no cars and use public transport/cars to get around more. I've had many a day dream about opening my car door just as a biker is about to pass.

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Old 06-15-2006, 12:14 PM
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Oh and to the strange girl from the strange school, bikers are annoying. Get off the damn road. Use a sidewalk. Or better yet go somewhere with no cars and use public transport/cars to get around more. I've had many a day dream about opening my car door just as a biker is about to pass.

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Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists alike. Sidewalks are far more uneven, and with the number of obstacles (garbage cans, driveways, annoyingly large strollers, kids on rollerblades, dogs on and off leash, etc), extremely dangerous to an adult cyclist going 20 + MPH. According to PA State law, adult cyclists must be riding with the flow of traffic, as far to the right as is practical (Note: This does NOT mean the shoulder, shoulders are not practical due to glass/debris/drainage grates), and are to be treated as a vehicle equal to a car.

And you should be thankful that some of us are cycling to work, because we're not sucking up gas or taking up space on the Parkway West (where cycles are restricted). That means that there will be more gas for the rest of you because I drive my car only 2 days of the week. Of course you can always chose to take your gas guzzler onto the highways and other roads where non-motorized traffic is prohibited.

My bike is far more reliable than Port Authority any day. Even if I drop my chain or pop a tire, I have the know how to fix them and get going in under 10 minutes, rather than waiting another hour for a bus to *maybe* stop. Plus there are no bus routes to the places I work.
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:16 PM
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Fine. Learn to run. Buy a segway. Either way, drivers are going to hate bikers for a long time. We don't want to worry about you coming up the side or worrying anytime we turn.

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Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists alike. Sidewalks are far more uneven, and with the number of obstacles (garbage cans, driveways, annoyingly large strollers, kids on rollerblades, dogs on and off leash, etc), extremely dangerous to an adult cyclist going 20 + MPH. According to PA State law, adult cyclists must be riding with the flow of traffic, as far to the right as is practical (Note: This does NOT mean the shoulder, shoulders are not practical due to glass/debris/drainage grates), and are to be treated as a vehicle equal to a car.

And you should be thankful that some of us are cycling to work, because we're not sucking up gas or taking up space on the Parkway West (where cycles are restricted). That means that there will be more gas for the rest of you because I drive my car only 2 days of the week. Of course you can always chose to take your gas guzzler onto the highways and other roads where non-motorized traffic is prohibited.

My bike is far more reliable than Port Authority any day. Even if I drop my chain or pop a tire, I have the know how to fix them and get going in under 10 minutes, rather than waiting another hour for a bus to *maybe* stop. Plus there are no bus routes to the places I work.
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:24 PM
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Fine. Learn to run. Buy a segway. Either way, drivers are going to hate bikers for a long time. We don't want to worry about you coming up the side or worrying anytime we turn.

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Whenever I see someone on a Segway, I want to push them over. They look like such easy targets!
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:43 PM
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According to PA State law, adult cyclists must be riding with the flow of traffic, as far to the right as is practical (Note: This does NOT mean the shoulder, shoulders are not practical due to glass/debris/drainage grates), and are to be treated as a vehicle equal to a car.
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I always thought the rule was going against traffic, this way motorists could see you coming. Cars have a lot of blind spots, even more if it's an SUV or even a semi-truck, and a lot of cyclists think they own the road. Even if cyclists have the right of way, sometimes it's impossible to see one coming up on your right when you are trying to turn. My suggestion? Ride on the sidewalk carefully, and if you want to do the kind of riding you do, find a less busy road. (this is no offense to you, but to those cyclists who act like cars don't exist)
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:48 PM
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I always thought the rule was going against traffic, this way motorists could see you coming. Cars have a lot of blind spots, even more if it's an SUV or even a semi-truck, and a lot of cyclists think they own the road. Even if cyclists have the right of way, sometimes it's impossible to see one coming up on your right when you are trying to turn. My suggestion? Ride on the sidewalk carefully, and if you want to do the kind of riding you do, find a less busy road. (this is no offense to you, but to those cyclists who act like cars don't exist)
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:45 PM
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I always thought the rule was going against traffic, this way motorists could see you coming. Cars have a lot of blind spots, even more if it's an SUV or even a semi-truck, and a lot of cyclists think they own the road. Even if cyclists have the right of way, sometimes it's impossible to see one coming up on your right when you are trying to turn. My suggestion? Ride on the sidewalk carefully, and if you want to do the kind of riding you do, find a less busy road. (this is no offense to you, but to those cyclists who act like cars don't exist)
Here it is illegal to ride your bike on a sidewalk, since you are considered a vehicle. I do agree that cyclists need to follow road rules, especially regarding stoplights.
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